New Rotation

[Manuel857]

This is our new rotation:

Note: There will be some tweaks to the rotation as days go by. Our plan was to add hourglass_rxd flying and some other rxd maps once its ready to go.

[23:49:24] (&RCAOW) Host: The map rotation includes:
[23:49:24] (&RCAOW) Host: [Field_RxD] Islands Mars Mesa
[23:49:24] (&RCAOW) Host: Volcano_Flying BunkersTS Under_RxD Bio
[23:49:24] (&RCAOW) Host: Snow_RxD Glacier_Flying Canyon Complex
[23:49:24] (&RCAOW) Host: Niagra Tomb Walls Field
[23:49:24] (&RCAOW) Host: Islands_RxD Uphill_RxD Under Canyon_RxD
[23:49:24] (&RCAOW) Host: Volcano City_Flying Complex Walls_Flying

 

Maps removed: Sand, Volcano_RxD, Hourglass, and MetroTS,

Maps added: Volcano_flying, BunkersTS, Niagra, and Mars.

 

Lets see how it rolls out.

[u00fzTar]

Mars, BunkersTS, Volcano_flying, Niagra?

Haha you guys are awesome :D

@n00b31 You are right, it will never be like you wished it, its better

 

Good work guys

[WNxH3adSh00t]

#FreeSand

[n00b31]

Nice rotation. I first hatet mars, but i'm slowly starting to like it.
I can't say much about Volcano_Flying since I only played one game. I find the map is too small to have orca/apache but I need to play some more games to find out if I like it or not.

I hope it's now possible to destroy orca/apache with ramjet.

[warlord83]

Volcano  flying  should be fun lol

[masscarriers]

I guess we would have to modify the map to change armor type for orca/apache, for now we just wanted to test the map as it is considering we had fun that time we played it. There's not a hundred ways to sneak into the base with these flyers and they can still be shot down quite easily using PICs and such. In fact, I'm more concerned of the multiple ramps added in the GDI base and, considering how easy it is to sneak in with an SBH, how painful it can become to defend against those. If we notice Nod is winning a LOT of games, we'll just swap in regular volcano_rxd instead.

Same thing goes for Mars, if people get bored quickly we'll just flip it out. Now that we have a small bank of maps to cycle in the rotation, we can expect it to be changed more often than once or twice a year.

[Goztow]

Orca has always been better than apache so that might just balance the sbh out. 

[WNxH3adSh00t]

Cairo is a bad map.

Seriously, there are so many other good maps(LIKE CREEKDALE_FLYING). This was the 2nd time ever I played this map, the other was freaking years ago on Jelly cause they set it as next map and we instantly lost to stanks and other stuff. AGTs(even 3 of them) already have a hard time killing stuff that isn't a buggy or an arty just like today when we got rushed by around 7 stanks and lost most of the base, we got lucky and won though cause someone killed a PP(out of freaking 2 so there were still base defenses).

 

Volcano_flying is ok as is. The only thing I'd change would be ramjet's damage against orcas/apaches cause it's an anti materiel rifle(duh). Leave the 500 as it is.

Mars is a lot of fun early on, gets stale after 10 minutes where people get bored of jumping around. Explain how a Nod cargo plane flew off from Earth and landed on Mars to deliver tanks.

Edited November 1, 2017 by WNxH3adSh00t

[masscarriers]

Cairo ain't in the rotation, someone decided to set it as next map it seems. I agree though, everytime I played it I throrougly hated it.

[shaitan]

4 hours ago, masscarriers said:

I guess we would have to modify the map to change armor type for orca/apache, for now we just wanted to test the map as it is considering we had fun that time we played it. There's not a hundred ways to sneak into the base with these flyers and they can still be shot down quite easily using PICs and such. In fact, I'm more concerned of the multiple ramps added in the GDI base and, considering how easy it is to sneak in with an SBH, how painful it can become to defend against those. If we notice Nod is winning a LOT of games, we'll just swap in regular volcano_rxd instead.

Same thing goes for Mars, if people get bored quickly we'll just flip it out. Now that we have a small bank of maps to cycle in the rotation, we can expect it to be changed more often than once or twice a year.

Good point, gotta include Mars/Volcano_flying in the text files.

[mdogg1108]

1 hour ago, masscarriers said:

Cairo ain't in the rotation, someone decided to set it as next map it seems. I agree though, everytime I played it I throrougly hated it.

This is the best thing I've read all day

[dippy]

RIP Sand :(

[trunkskgb]

Creekdale_Flying would be good for another month's rotation, So would Backstab ;)

[mdogg1108]

7 minutes ago, trunkskgb said:

Creekdale_Flying would be good for another month's rotation, So would Backstab ;)

No

[ehh]

quickdraw is the best map

[masscarriers]

Creekdale_flying is better with lots of players, and WF vehicle path needs to be fixed just like in meadow. Otherwise it's a pretty decent map, it's been in the rotation before and probably will in the future.

Oh, and sand will be back one day dippy no worries :P

[Forithow]

Will there be a version of creekdale_flying map without those bulletproof bushes in the way? Other than that, it's a decent map

[masscarriers]

I doubt it, I wonder how hard it would be to manually remove them all and recompile the map.

I told myself one day I'd sit down and learn how to do this kind of stuff, but you know... time/life :P

[ehh]

not a massive issue tbh, maps still one of the better fanmaps.

better than niagra FOR SURE

[trunkskgb]

all my work for nothing :(

[masscarriers]

41 minutes ago, trunkskgb said:

all my work for nothing :(

I'll just be speaking for myself here.

I don't know if you were expecting to show up here and force your own maps in the rotation this quickly or even change the style the server's been running since 2012, but you'll meet resistance. Since the demise of Jelly we've been running mostly core, unmodified maps with a somewhat classic gameplay as opposed to MPF. It pleases a different crowd of players who wants to play more seriously on maps they know against other knowledgable players. Yes it's true that over the years several fan maps have been added to the rotation following extensive testing, and some of them are permanent fixtures now that people do enjoy. But it took time; remember, we're the last renegade server having a somewhat classic style and we need to be careful with how we manage it. Renegade is on the brink of dying as much as we all don't like it.

I'm not a fan of the way you dismiss people who are "afraid of change" and how the downloading part of these maps are the only thing keeping people from playing hundreds of new maps. Most of them have bugs, are imbalanced or just don't fit the type of gameplay people look for when they play around here. MPF is a great place for that, they run heavily modified maps and support a somewhat more laid-back type of play than us, which is really cool but we want to distance from for the sake of diversity.

I'm not saying that your maps are bad. I personnaly didn't like backstab but I've heard some did and it's fine. Maybe someday your map will make the rotation, when it's been played several times and people are asking for it. All those maps are still in the database, mods can !snm them to give them a try every now and then when players are willing to give them a go. Shai's been nothing but nice and helpful for putting them in to play for a few days already, you should be thankful for this. But as for making them inside the rotation you'll have to be more patient than this. Especially if this (^) is how you react to us not within 2 weeks of you hanging around here.

If you want your maps running NOW on a server... I think you'll have more success running them at MPF.

[trunkskgb]

It's your server, you guys have my map so when you feel that the community wants to play it, it's there. 

I just prefer fan over the old maps, maybe that's because I've been around and playing them for so long. 

 

[shaitan]

The players can vote them in if they want, I may also talk them into playing it when I'm around. I never did get a chance to 'play' backstab, just made sure it worked.

We have a mishmash of people here as mass indicated. If you made holiday based maps, those I'll definitely throw in for a few. it's like Jerod's Christmas one last year, I never did get a chance to use it, but it's going in this year if it works.

[WNxH3adSh00t]

carnage club to replace sand

[War0n]

high noon anyone?

 

http://www.moddb.com/games/cc-renegade/addons/cc-high-noon-21