Manuel857 Posted January 9, 2018 Author Posted January 9, 2018 43 minutes ago, shaitan said: We talked about Volcano at the end of December. There are 195 maps total, removing 0,1,2 players that leaves 146 maps(I always take out 0,1,2 player maps). There are 2 skipped maps, that means 1.37% of volcano flying maps get skipped. Out of the 144 maps(after removing 2 skipped) that is: 3-9 players = 70 maps. 10-19 players = 45 maps. 20+ players = 29 maps. Those are some good player counts in my book. :/ idk why people are bitching then.
Guest rackz Posted January 9, 2018 Posted January 9, 2018 Volcano_flying completly killed the way we used to play volcano. Each map has its own way of playing. Some are stanks/flamers maps, and some are meds/mammys maps. Aircraft ruins all kinds of tank rushes.
ehh Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 people like volcano, so it doesnt get skipped. I posted earlier why its bad, mainly overpowered humvees and heles/orcas having heavy/medium armour. I guess those could be fixed? Doesn't play well as a flying map anyway, but i dont mind that. 1
Madeen Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 Armored choppers are always a dumb idea. The whole point of them being susceptible to snipers is so that they aren't OP. Tanks are relatively ineffective against them, so nubjets and PIC's should be a good alternative.
Itai795 Posted January 10, 2018 Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) Just reminding that skipping statistics should be a major factor for deciding what maps to remove from the rotation. You can't judge only by what people are saying here (forums) because they are only a few, and usually they are the people who are unsatisfied about something and will be the ones who complain. The people that are not-unsatisfied with the situation usually remain silent. Edited January 10, 2018 by Itai795 2
creed3020 Posted January 12, 2018 Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 6:03 PM, mdogg1108 said: were on the same page here i agree Likewise. Volcano Flying is actually worse than Niagara, pains me to even say that.
ehh Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 10/01/2018 at 9:01 PM, Itai795 said: Just reminding that skipping statistics should be a major factor for deciding what maps to remove from the rotation. You can't judge only by what people are saying here (forums) because they are only a few, and usually they are the people who are unsatisfied about something and will be the ones who complain. The people that are not-unsatisfied with the situation usually remain silent. I always make sure I explain why maps are bad and/or should be removed, everyone is free to refute my points. I think the best thing to do is rotate 1 or 2 maps every month and try out a new fanmap.
Mikey Posted January 13, 2018 Posted January 13, 2018 On 10 January 2018 at 9:01 PM, Itai795 said: Just reminding that skipping statistics should be a major factor for deciding what maps to remove from the rotation. You can't judge only by what people are saying here (forums) because they are only a few, and usually they are the people who are unsatisfied about something and will be the ones who complain. The people that are not-unsatisfied with the situation usually remain silent. Pretty much this. The player stats will speak for themselves anyway, it's impossible to keep everyone happy (especially here :D ) 1
Itai795 Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) On 1/13/2018 at 8:41 AM, ehh said: I always make sure I explain why maps are bad and/or should be removed, everyone is free to refute my points. I think the best thing to do is rotate 1 or 2 maps every month and try out a new fanmap. I wasn't aiming for dismissing your opinion or your (good) explanations (or of anyone else). I always read and often learn from them. I'm all up for minor changes and variations in the rotation, and I think the mods who are in charge of that are doing a great job and balancing everyone's opinions. It seemed to me that the discussion here is/was leaning towards one side, which is the side of the people who are unsatisfied, and I wanted to remind that there is another side with people who are satisfied therefore speak less. I also think that some new maps require a longer time for the community to get accustom to: Many of us compare fanmaps to the stock maps. In the latter, almost everybody knows how to decently play them. This is not the situation in new fanmaps, and in some cases I believe the maps are quite alright, but people quickly decide and are not patient enough for everyone to play them well as the stock maps are played and the maps don't get the opportunity they deserve from the community. Edited January 15, 2018 by Itai795
Vultima Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 Mars is getting to the point where everyone just votes it off now at least i hear vote yes spam at the start of every game
trunkskgb Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 How is the rotation formulated here? Do you base it off of player voting? Or do you base it off of whether or not a map is truly broken, glitched, or unbalanced? I only ask because people will often vote no for a map, just because they simply do not like it, but the map itself might be really good. I vote against all those maps with the Imperial Age mod, but from a designers view point, some of the layouts are new and really good, and in my opinion, they would make great battlefields for regular Renegade.
shaitan Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 There's hundreds of maps to choose from, but most of those old ones kind of suck when you actually put it on the server. We throw a map in and see what happens essentially. The ingame polls were needed as proof of what players wanted. Someone should check the Mars/NoMars poll, I've noticed people using it again(I agree it's a bad map for the server). My personal note: I don't go by the votes or stats when you see me posting, I watch how you all are in the game and how the flow goes. Who runs those maps nowadays, is it still iK or dblaney?
WNxH3adSh00t Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 Working shai Vs lazy shai You gained some weight
ehh Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 so whats the score on the humvees? its kind of disgusting how op there are
Goztow Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 My humble opinion. Mars, volcano fly, niagra... All bad :-(. 2
Manuel857 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Posted January 16, 2018 my opinion, all maps suck. lets play pubg. 1
mdogg1108 Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 Mars and Volcano Flying need to go. Niagra I would like gone too personally but if it's there I'm kind of indifferent I guess. Votes definitely can turn out with what's not best for the server, I'll admit my biggest mistake was wanting carnage club to be on the server..... boy that was a big mistake.
masscarriers Posted January 16, 2018 Posted January 16, 2018 Mars is already gone, I guess we could put back rxd_volcano in the rotation rather than the flying version. It was always meant to be a test anyways. I share the same feeling that some fan maps aren't as liked as classic ones, hence why we have staples in the rotation and others that shift every now and then. Bunkers, hourglass, niagra, creekdale, hell even sand, are all maps that aren't as liked as others so we swap them when we get bored. Otherwise, we'll just end up playing the classics everybody enjoy and never touch it again.
Guest rackz Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 We could stay at westwood maps only and make specific maps voteable. So if peoples getting bored, they have to sit together and vote a map.
mdogg1108 Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 anyone have any input on C&C_Tropics or C&C_Hangmans_Canyon? I remember playing these maps long time ago, but I think they might be too big for rencorner. since people talking about what maps they like heres 2 that i dont remember seeing on the server
Guest rackz Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Tropics is ok but hangmans canyon makes peoples camp to much. Gonna pick some maps tomorrow :p to lazy for now ;D only map i would like to see would be metropolis. Edited January 17, 2018 by rackz
Goztow Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 Mdog those maps are too big. I seem to remember city2 wasn't too bad but would need to check it again.
shaitan Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 You can throw Volcano back in if you want, the flying version isn't even hated, just by the snipers. Also, I know I am a few days late in doing it, but................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ TREEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS! You guys in the game got what you wanted, but you're going to hate it lol. Helies are like Volcano Flying, but worse(Rams/500s only do 2 damage). Vote it in or !setnextmap Fjord
Guest rackz Posted January 17, 2018 Posted January 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, Goztow said: Mdog those maps are too big. I seem to remember city2 wasn't too bad but would need to check it again. plz no city 2. it was even bigger than mdoggs maps. (only tunnel and infantry was short path)
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