ALISOHAIL Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 Hi RenCorner, I have as of late found iB-mdogg1108 in RenCorner Snipe with a bundle of his "friends" and obviously observed him say a racism comment and I have verification - [23:07:54] <RCSNIPE> @iB-mdogg1108: knee grow. I like how he can just effectively escape with this since he's a mod and every one of his companions in there are mods too that won't dare tell on him. Truth be told rambo6 was already permanently muted from RenCorner AOW for racism, and was recently kicked while I was in the same game, (snipe server) myself for saying the precisely same expression for the "n" word by a mod that is as of now in this server and he clearly seen it and mdog just gets away with it! Which is {Os}Manuel857 and Shaitan was also on IRC when rambo6 was kicked, just stunning! Obviously the evidence speaks for itself here with every one of these mods simply being close friends and supporting each other up while the others just misuse! Like how Manuel with zero hesitation realizes rambo6 said a racism comment and tells Shai to kick him while Manuel sees his friend iB-mdogg1108 he just ignores it like it's no big deal! Manuel should have at least specified him or cautioned him, yet no! Nothing! (Even though Racism should be taken seriously with immediate action). He essentially carries on like nothing happened while rambo6 gets permanently muted because he's an ordinary player that isn't your close friend you play games with all day. I comprehend racism is something every community should avoid and if said should be kept out instantly, I myself used to be restricted from truly every server back then for racism and learned from the past that you simply don't say that sort of stuff online. Mdog clearly is abusing, yet again this isn't the first time and sure won't be the last time I or anyone catches him abusing or getting away with stuff that isn't allowed just because he his a mod. If mdog is still a mod after this the RenCorner community should be ashamed of themselves. Also I by any means necessary do not have a vendetta against iB-mdogg1108, although it may seem like it; I truly don't. If any other mod did the same thing I would acknlodge that mod as well without hesitation. I just cannot stand the act of mod abuse or escaping troubles because you're just a moderator of a community while I get banned and kicked for saying things that are allowed and just simply annoys others. (PS: Didn't know where to post this, so I simply posted here. Let me know whether this is the wrong place to post so I can post it elsewhere). Much appreciated, ALISOHAIL
Manuel857 Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 Calm down, we were on Teamspeak and we were talking about how rambo6 said that word ingame few weeks ago. What mdogg did wasnt racist. He isn't a racist person. rambo6 on the other hand is indeed a racist person. He has countless history of saying racist terms.
ALISOHAIL Posted March 3, 2018 Author Posted March 3, 2018 Manuel, I understand that. Although, he shouldn't have said it in the chat, no one else gets an explanation if they were to say that. What was the point in that? He is a mod and should act like one. Anyways we preferably need more mods on this topic because I think it's more of a better and non-biased answer if someone other than his friend answers. As I stated above quit backing other mods up when they clearly did something wrong, just get another mod that isn't close to mdog.
Joetorp Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 Racism is not permitted. This includes slurs against a race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, group, or individual. It also includes slang used in today's vernacular. It is a rule Manny...It's worth a warning. 2
shaitan Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 Mdogg spelling out the word to watch for from rambo6 to Display isn't a thing. Nexttime use TS to type it, Mdogg. Also, this here is why I started coming down on rambo: https://pastebin.com/EPkMgTWR That story is a little weird, do note the pastebin date.
mdogg1108 Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 Ali, nice try man. Next time you make a post, start a new paragraph like every 5 sentences so my brain doesn't hurt trying to read your wall of text. Aren't you in high school? You've written papers before. Joe, you're awesome, thank you for pointing out the rule! Shai, you got it no probs. 2 1
SAP Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 Here's the thing and my opinion. This why it pays not to be a troll / rule breaker, if you had a legitimate post it would be hard for anyone to take it seriously (just pointing it out, it's like the boy who cried wolf) I got the idea that it was just mentioned in conversation to know what to look out for as rambo6 has a history of been a douche! You start a post because of this? how about you fess up to all the shit you've done and all the games you made sour from your attitude? As you've pointed out 9-5 jobs yeah? we are nothing? well we all here work hard and take out some time to be mods and play renegade because it's fun. Same with regular players who aren't mods! When I play renegade I want to have FUN as I'm sure others here do to. I don't know what happened to you, you we're a fun player with harmless sense of humour then you turned into a jahash no one wants to be around / play with I don't dislike you, just dislike your behaviour and hope you return the way you used to be! it doesn't cost anything to be nice and friendly, you wouldn't have the rep you do otherwise 3
SAP Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 Adding to that, I have never seen anything racist about mdogg from the whole time I've known him. He has never said anything that would make me question him as a person, if so I wouldn't be apart if IB or wanting to be a mod alongside someone who is a racist and intolerant of others! IB itself as a clan has different shades and colours from different parts of the world. It's pretty dumb IMO for you to throw that out! 3
bad2gurlz Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 17 hours ago, Joetorp said: Racism is not permitted. This includes slurs against a race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, group, or individual. It also includes slang used in today's vernacular. It is a rule Manny...It's worth a warning. Correct!, Dogg No more! 3
dippy Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 I didn't read all of that, but I don't think I need to. Even if he did outright type the word into the chat box....saying nigger doesn't make you a racist. Our rules need to be updated, but also read with their intent in mind. Using targeted language in an offensive and demeaning manner makes you a racist. Dropping 'nigger' into conversation does not. No, that doesn't mean we'll allow everyone to use it prolifically or whenever they please. It does mean everyone needs to chill out about using a single word, once. A common sense approach is needed here. 2
Cjx0r Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) On 3/5/2018 at 4:05 AM, dippy said: saying nigger doesn't make you a racist. /thread Edited March 8, 2018 by Cjx0r
Joetorp Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 On 3/5/2018 at 4:05 AM, dippy said: saying nigger doesn't make you a racist. It does if you're white. 1
SAP Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Joetorp said: It does if you're white. it does even if you're black. it's a pure case of double standards If you don't want to be called a racist term by "white people" , then "black people" shouldn't use it amongst themselves. This is in a context of someone racist though We've already established mdogg wasn't been racist. Distasteful I would agree with that hands on heart. Could have used a different way to get his point across.
SAP Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 And may I remind everyone up until recently everyone thought Mdogg was black? It has been said and implied many times, never seen mdogg come out and say "how dare you think i'm black" or show any sign that it offended him. Would have seen a reaction if he was
shaitan Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 This shit is done and over with, move along. The only thing mdogg should have done differently was typing it to display in Teamspeak instead of the game(or at least adding some context while doing it), which he agreed to if you read his reply to my post. Also, I've typed those copied phrases and posted them ingame myself over the years(using quotes). It comes in handy when people rage because you've just booted someone and everyone freaking out without knowing 'why'. 1
Joetorp Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 cjx0r what is your point in putting red boxes on my post?
Qjmatrix1 Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 .... OK now ill say something.... well any intent on the "N" word isn't cool TBH.... and at the same time the more you use a word the less power it has.... its the way the word is sad add an er at the end i don't care what race you are... it shouldn't ever be done.... and the fact that it gets said is stupid honestly its a word in the dictionary that states an ignorant person.... so who gives a fuck ... lets just not say the word at all... I've heard the word come out of a few peoples mouths on renegade.... and then boom they weren't banned but muted and given the reason why after.... at the same time I've heard some use it way too much and should be banned.,.. and if your talking about when mdogg say that... he apologized to me personally ... and first... before saying oops out loud... spent the entire day apologizing .... and felt bad for ever and still does.... he can be hot headed at times... and definitely needs to learn to STFU sometimes... but he is well respected... all of you know this... otherwise this tread wouldn't be here.. we wouldn't be talking about him and angry he said something.... so my thoughts to those who are crying about this shit... STFU...... stop crying its fine... let that shit go warn his ass take steps that everyone else has to follow... warn, mute, ban,... and don't have a moderator or lower do it.... but other than that... he can apologize for his shit... we all can... its called tuck your balls and open your fucking mouth 1 1
Vultima Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 CJ you're post is red because all posts in this section need to be approved by mods...he didn't hide it. End of the day people have different opinions on whats allowed/not allowed, so this could be debated all day long it's a pointless argument, I suppose RC could come up with some guidlines as to whats allowed specific/not allowed, but we're a forum consisting of people from all over the world what might be acceptable in one place is not in another. For me in the UK, nobody even says that word not even as a joke, and if you do, you're seen as an idiot, again that's just my experience with it. As dippy said, randomly using the word doesn't make you a racist, targetting an individual/group with it, does. 1
Manuel857 Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 Locking this as its pointless to continue this conversation. Nothing more to say. 1
Manuel857 Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 Locking this as its pointless to continue this conversation. Nothing more to say. 1
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