Pimp Weapons Remove Skill

[Tesla]

Like the title says, IDK if Pimp Weapons affect players staying active, but it annoys me when a game is 1 sided do to who has the pimp rocket (just for example) and not because of skills.

Not an every day thing, but I've seen it completely throw off/dominate or annoyingly prolong matches. Especially when players hunt for them as free-pickups.

I would enjoy the server more without them. Crates are bad enough lol.

 

(Side Note; Also think commands like !weapons and !tank take away from the game, but at least they make it more friendlier for nubs so they don't just rage quit when a bar/hon/air/wf is blown up, which is important to help keep Renegade active.)

[ehh]

good luck LMAO

[Guest rackz]

we need more Panzer!

[Mikey]

If you've never pissed someone off with a pimp flechette gun, you've never lived...

[Blacky]

13 hours ago, Mikey said:

If you've never pissed someone off with a pimp flechette gun, you've never lived...

Hahaha 

[ehh]

pimp weapons are balanced:

 

 

[Vandal33]

you mean those dumb colorful plasma ray guns? now i remember why I moved to interim apex

[Sean]

3 minutes ago, Vandal33 said:

you mean those dumb colorful plasma ray guns? now i remember why I moved to interim apex

Yeah cause there shit is so much better..not.

 

Putrid filth.

[shaitan]

30 minutes ago, Vandal33 said:

you mean those dumb colorful plasma ray guns? now i remember why I moved to interim apex

You mean the ones they stole from us and use there?

[VegitoBIH]

How do people even like that server it has so much bs

[ROZPIERDALATOR]

@ehh what exactly is wrong with this pimp laser rifle? because you(?) aim for head free infantry at the beggining of the match when they dont have weapon/tank to kill you?

[ehh]

basically its broken? you kill people way to quick/easy lol.

not as bad as the rocket launcher however.

[ROZPIERDALATOR]

well when you aim directly in head you should be able to kill free infantry in 2-3 shots, is it too quick for pimp weapon? i dont think so.
anyway its very rare and expensieve weapon

[ehh]

yeah i suppose your right

its not op for bad players like you :)

[Mikey]

13 hours ago, Vandal33 said:

you mean those dumb colorful plasma ray guns? now i remember why I moved to interim apex

Oh you are missed dearly sweetheart, please come back...

[ROZPIERDALATOR]

@ehhtoo bad nobody can judge your skills because you are a coward who constantly hiding under smurfs nicks ;)

[ehh]

i dont hide.

[Vultima]

On 5/4/2019 at 1:14 PM, ROZPIERDALATOR said:

@ehhtoo bad nobody can judge your skills because you are a coward who constantly hiding under smurfs nicks ;)

[19:09] <&RCAOW> Stats for ehh, ranked 194 :: rank points: 9273, score: 1978678, kills: 21880, deaths: 8627, games: 1422, GDI: 676, Nod: 746, MVP: 146

[19:10] <&RCAOW> Stats for ROZPIERDALATOR, ranked 124 :: rank points: 13501, score: 2765847, kills: 8103, deaths: 7608, games: 1360, GDI: 703, Nod: 657, MVP: 132

Very similar game count? (and almost triple your kills)

[Tesla]

Interim is for nubs to hide, entertaining when they join and try using commands to refund dead buildings.

Pimp weapons can be fun for goofing off but wouldn't blame someone for leaving when they can't go down a tunnel because of giant colorful grenades. Not even concerning with the ones in the "!weapons", which is bad enough, but at least those cost time and effort.

I guess the only good thing is sometimes they help prolong the game which seems most players like elongated battles.

Side note: I kind of want a "Golden Gun" crate. Like 1 shot, 1 kill type of weapon. Least then you'd really have to be careful not to die or waste it.

[ROZPIERDALATOR]

@Vultimaif you really want compare stats check also nick PELO because I played many times on brothers PC at his nick lol and maybe check all smurf nicks of ehh;)
@TeslaDan5in interim you need something more to win than tech+arty combo, you have to actually THINK about effective strategy which isnt too important in vanilla renegade on stock maps.

they created pimp weapons, purchasing !tank and !weapons, veterancy system etc. to make rencorner more attractive, I dont understand why you want remove these improvements.

[Vultima]

I was just being funny, but truthfully ehh is better than almost all players left in ren haha

 

I don't think removing pimps is the way to go, but maybe limiting 1 pimp rocket to be in present at any one time

[ehh]

5 hours ago, ROZPIERDALATOR said:

@Vultimaif you really want compare stats check also nick PELO because I played many times on brothers PC at his nick lol and maybe check all smurf nicks of ehh;)
@TeslaDan5in interim you need something more to win than tech+arty combo, you have to actually THINK about effective strategy which isnt too important in vanilla renegade on stock maps.

they created pimp weapons, purchasing !tank and !weapons, veterancy system etc. to make rencorner more attractive, I dont understand why you want remove these improvements.

those commands dont make it more attractive tbf, just helps all the noobs on the server like you

'you have to actually THINK about effective strategy which isnt too important in vanilla renegade on stock maps.'

LMAO, can you suck off intermin apex elsewhere?

[Mikey]

10 hours ago, Vultima said:

I was just being funny, but truthfully ehh is better than almost all players left in ren haha

 

 

Get a room

[Vultima]

Iv not played Apex too much so I can't say for certain but I can't even begin to understand how it's balanced in the slightest from what I saw, some of the tanks are totally redundant might as well be deleted from the game, some of the maps suffer from the same thing renegade does when stealth is involved.  Stealth = overpowered on big maps, its an auto win, whats strategic in the slightest about getting 6 people rushing together, that's not strategy that's just a basic coordination of people, that's the same as getting a P90 in CS:GO and just running around not aiming and spraying and praying, anybody can do that.

The maps I saw had EXCESSIVE base defenses, meaning infantry was not even a factor at all, so that's 50% of the game removed already, if ren is just gonna devolve into "as long as I got 5 buddies with me for a rush we can win", that's bull, where is the satisfaction of planting beacons and defending it with infantry, or sneaking into a part of the base you shouldn't normally be able to get to and single handedly turning a game on its back, or simply holding the field and sieging until you eventually win, the only way I saw maps end on that server was from stupid rushes that wouldn't work, if it wasn't for terrible map design.

[Tesla]

This was more so to see what others said about it. Not that I personally wouldn't mind having it removed... Just wanted to spark up opinions.

After playing for a bit more on the server, it may potentially help populate the server which is important so I wouldn't argue to remove it much, but it would be nice to have some games without it. Pimp weapons definitely don't help skill/balance though.

Calling them "improvements" made me lol. I guess in someways it improves it for people that can't handle a base loss lol. Just not for balance.

 

21 hours ago, Vultima said:

 

I don't think removing pimps is the way to go, but maybe limiting 1 pimp rocket to be in present at any one time

 

I think making it so a person can't just camp an entrance with a pimp rocket for 10+ minutes wouldn't hurt. A person with a pimp weapon isn't always unstoppable, but it is game changing.

 

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I haven't played Apex a ton myself, so I can't judge a ton, but the few I have just seemed like "lets gather outside of the base and pummel this spot all at once." Only to have the enemy refund their building and last another 30 minutes. I agree with @Vultima.

They could do away with half the tanks in it and still be worthy, they only have those to keep people attracted, not for strategy. And a few times I've fought people on Rencorner that rage-quit, I've seen them join Apex so I just considered it their hiding spot since the map won't end in 5 minutes from a simple c4 rush.

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Also bragging on a forum is one thing , plus stats only show so much, Renegade isn't a sniping/kill count game. There's much more to it that stats won't show.
(Heck, I've seen games lost because half my team was sniping while the enemy rushed in with tanks.) MVP and team play wins are two different things.