Noddie Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) Roughly 9:00pm EST time I was banned for HC on Regular Hourglass 2. Noddie44 3. OSTKSean, Masscarriers 4. HC (Hill Camping) So, I played a game earlier probably roughly 12:00pm EST time zone and Fori stated that this exact same thing of what I did was okay. I also have multiple other mods stating that this is okay. Now the rules IN-GAME Specify that "CENTRAL HILL" is considering hill camp. Where I am located in this video is not "CENTRAL HILL". If the rules is classified as the entire hill is central hill then yes I am located in central hill, but now if the rule means the entire hill is classified that way. Then your stating that we can't attack any building going over the hill until we pass the enemy tunnel because it would be considered hill camp. There's nothing classified as rushing or not. Honestly nearly the entire time I'm being shot the AGT. So if you want to get technical you can classify it as a VERY SLOW RUSH! Regardless whether or not im an experienced player with this server or whether I'm knew and someone going state I should know the rules. Multiple of the mods are stated that's its legal, then on the contra, multiple mods state that its not. ALL MODS SHOULD BE ON THE SAME PAGE. Renegade_2019-09-12_20-39-01.mp4 Edited September 13, 2019 by Noddie
masscarriers Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 That video is the very definition of Hill Camping. Staying on the hill, shooting buildings and not going down the hill (rushing). It's not about a line to cross or not... You can start shooting from the top if you're not staying there and you're rushing downhill. But if you stay up there, it's HC. If some mods disagree with this, refer them to me, shai or Manny... Though now it doesn't matter because people have been asking for it to be removed, and shai saw fit to remove the rule yesterday. But since you acted like a complete dick yesterday and dared me to ban you, there you go. 1 1 2
Noddie Posted September 13, 2019 Author Posted September 13, 2019 I acted like a complete dick? You're damn well correct, because you deemed needed to not even bother to go up the chain of the order being a qkick to a ban. You went straight to a ban. To a rule that is not specified as to specifics in the rules IN GAME. Like I stated to you before. It would be different if your whole community being all your mods where on board with how the rule was stated but MULTIPLE of the mods in the server were stating its legal, and multiple stating its not legal. So I rest my case there. My reaction was purely off the way you handled yourself being in my IRC logs how you refused to even answer a lot of my questions yourself. Not how a mod should sorry NOT HOW A SERVER ADMIN, should handle themselves in that kind of situation. As for myself keep the ban, remove the ban. That's up to you guys to decide quite frankly "because I was a dick" is abuse of power. There's multiple people in this server that are dickheads lmao. As for Shai comment stating I'm a hot head, yep he's correct too. I'm a hot head when a server is being ran and rules are clearly stated yet select individuals will "enforce" what they "interpret" the rule to be. Moral of this story. You're the mod (ADMIN) do as you please cause you will anyways even though half the community backed me on this, which you can even see some of the statements being made its legal in chat in the video. Have a good day.
Noddie Posted September 13, 2019 Author Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, masscarriers said: That video is the very definition of Hill Camping. Staying on the hill, shooting buildings and not going down the hill (rushing). It's not about a line to cross or not... You can start shooting from the top if you're not staying there and you're rushing downhill. But if you stay up there, it's HC. If some mods disagree with this, refer them to me, shai or Manny... Though now it doesn't matter because people have been asking for it to be removed, and shai saw fit to remove the rule yesterday. But since you acted like a complete dick yesterday and dared me to ban you, there you go. And also. Its not that the mods "disagree" on it. This is what I tried to make you understand yesterday. Yet you're too set on telling me "your interpretation" of the rule itself. They don't DISAGREE. Its they don't UNDERSTAND the specifications of what the rule exactly is you want them to enforce! That is what this is about!!! Shai's statement in the rule change being its allowed now "Mods do your thing, it will take a few days for us to be all on one page". This right here proves this rule you guys were never on the same page, like I said, ."I want you all as Moderators to be on the same page. It's how a server should be ran." Never was here to be a dickhead. You challenged me when you abused your powers, after OSTKSean also deemed it cool to "+b" me the IRC channel to then only "Unban" me minutes later?! That's FUCKING CHILDISH!
Sean Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) *waves* See you in a week. I have every faith that you can return and be a upstanding member of the community, see you soon. Edited September 13, 2019 by Sean 1
Noddie Posted September 13, 2019 Author Posted September 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Sean said: *waves* See you in a week. Exactly why I am a dickhead, so masscarriers you can understand it or not, when I deal with a child like this. Your going receive the backlash too if you step in like you did.
Noddie Posted September 13, 2019 Author Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) Funny how you decide to edit your own quote. Lmao? Why you decide to do that all of a sudden and include the very "nice and polite" statement there? [14:40]<OSTKSean> Good evening [14:41] <OSTKSean> How are you this fine evening 15[14:46] <Noddie44> Great and you? [14:47] <OSTKSean> Happy to be home 15[14:47] <Noddie44> Thats awesome. [14:53] <OSTKSean> I'm glad that hill camping is now allowed, it makes my job easier [14:54] <OSTKSean> plus it adds a extra element of gameplay to the map now, different strats etc, such as mrls/arts/lights 15[14:54] <Noddie44> You're right? Is there a moral behind this? quite frankly dont care. If you wanna talk im here for you? [14:55] <OSTKSean> just reflecting 15[14:56] <Noddie44> Reflecting what exactly? [14:56] <OSTKSean> the situation from yesterday 15[14:56] <Noddie44> Whats to reflect? 15[14:56] <Noddie44> "yesterday" is past? Today is present? So whats your point here? [14:57] <OSTKSean> well, to know that you have to start at the beginning, chain of events, actions and reactions and so forth [14:57] <OSTKSean> and then post 15[14:57] <Noddie44> Except what are you reflecting? [14:57] <OSTKSean> after the event [14:57] <OSTKSean> I told you, the situation from yesterday 15[14:57] <Noddie44> Whats to reflect about it? 15[14:57] <Noddie44> Again? 15[14:58] <Noddie44> "past be past" Today be today equally present? You live in the past? [14:58] <OSTKSean> I was thinking that there would've been several other options for you to get your point across without actually breaking the rule and then the torrent of abuse that followed 15[14:59] <Noddie44> Breaking rules? You mean the rules that werent clearly stated? 15[14:59] <Noddie44> You mean, the "rules" that werent being taking so "LITERAL" by you? 15[14:59] <Noddie44> Yeah Literal you know im quoting you there? 15[14:59] <Noddie44> Lol 15[14:59] <Noddie44> Funny how that works. 15[15:00] <Noddie44> A rule is a rule. How it is stated can only mean one thing. Rules are meant to be taken Literal. 15[15:00] <Noddie44> There is almost multiple other ways for masscarriers to go about instead of instantly 24 hour banning am i not correct on that one? 15[15:00] <Noddie44> There was also no need for the "+b" on IRC for "Stupid" 15[15:01] <Noddie44> Dont talk to me about the different ways i couldve went about things when my name doesnt represent the server. Yours does. 15[15:02] <Noddie44> Oh now you dont wanna talk 15[15:02] <Noddie44> What happened to reflecting? You dont want to reflect because i have statements that you made that you dont know i have? Right 15[15:02] <Noddie44> *laughs* Again really no need for this nonsense quoted above like I stated "Child". If he needs attention please give him the attention he needs. Messaging me on IRC really isn't need. There no reflection needed there no nothing. As for OSTKSean, I hope your representation for the Rencorner community goes hand in hand all out. I wish you nothing but the best, Truly from my heart. <3 Edited September 13, 2019 by Noddie
shaitan Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 "Mods do your thing, it will take a few days for us to be all on one page". Was in reference to mods AND players still thinking it's not allowed. [09-12-2019][20:25:20] <Noddie44> !msg literally im half tempted to come in and provide you guys some drama and attack building on the hill
Noddie Posted September 13, 2019 Author Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) Oh please proceed through that thou Shaitan there information in there that's classic! Proceed. That's exactly what I was looking for but I was disconnected from IRC at the time so I don't have those logs for some reason. Please keep scrolling down from that time stamp. You'll see one of your mods tell me its allowed! To your reference to the "mods AND players still thinking it's not allowed." Half of the community being mods and players were still under the impression of certain things were allowed. I.E. This whole situation, and if you scroll through a little beyond what you just quoted me, you'll see for yourself. Literally proves my point. Which NO ONE in this drama filled environment wants to understand! Edited September 13, 2019 by Noddie
masscarriers Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 For the record, I was about to simply !kick you before then you came up all nutjob on IRC. Nice trolling btw See you in a week
Noddie Posted September 13, 2019 Author Posted September 13, 2019 How could I have came up all "nutjob" on IRC when you 24hr banned me first? Are you even listening to what I'm saying? Of course not, your too small minded. Lol see you in a week. Not my community I'm showing my true colors too lol. Really could careless about any of this nonsense moral of the story, is WE ALL ACTED OUT OF CONTEXT including myself, but you're too big to admit that. Not trolling either when I got the "Context" to prove it.
masscarriers Posted September 13, 2019 Posted September 13, 2019 24h kick is warranted when you've been warned multiple times and knew you were breaking the rules, as per your IRC line up there. You had enough posts to explain yourself but instead you're just acting like a dick some more so : 32 minutes ago, masscarriers said: See you in a week
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