purchasing weapons when bar/hon is dead

[Mikey]

There's actually a skin that replaces MRLS Missiles with fireworks

[Vultima]

On the actual topic...

I understand games can get stale in because one team would rather snipe whore than finish, so giving the team who lost an AS/WF an opportunity to buy tanks at a far reduced rate(1 or 2 mins) as a comeback mechanic to help ease their pain might be good...but with additional rules around it.

 

Also can we tie in the ability to use those commands based on your veteran status, that way you've actually EARNED the ability to do it, rather than "iv just been afk for 3 hours and now I have lots of cash"

e.g.

No vet = Nothing

Vet level 1 = Can buy buggies/hummers/APCs at x4 the value

Vet level 2 = Can buy all tanks at x4 the value (everything in Vet level 1 is 3x)

Vet level 3 = Can buy everything at x3 the value (everyting in Vet level 2 is 2x)

Vet level 4 = x2 the value (everything in vet level 1 is 1.5x)

Vet level 5 = x1.5 the value (everything in vet level 1 is 1x)

As for weapons they are a WHOLE different kettle of fish, because realistically, these DO NOT finish games, they just prolong games.  Also they are BORDERLINE useless against a team who has their base defenses still up, so if its a non-base defense map OR AGT/obby is down, this gets enabled?

ALSO tied into veteran status

Vet level 1 = nothing

Vet level 2 = s-rocket, tib gun, chaingun, chem

Vet level 3 = f-rocket, laser, flechette, chaingun

Vet level 4 = sniper, pic, rail, volt

Vet level 5 = ramjet/s-rep

And similar rules as vehicles for the cost

 

[Sheila]

^I like this idea.

During the first years of Rencorner, it was similar to that. Only level 5 vets could get a vehicle (randomly given). Also, weapons and characters were given randomly in accordance with vet level. I think it was the best one. Chocolate Ren > Vanilla Ren!

[Vultima]

Im all for vanilla ren, but I understand we can't please everyone haha, if we had some way of having randomized "game modes" which dictated these rules are in place, rather than ALL the time to switch it up that would be cool

[Iran]

Well vanilla ren is 24-32 players 30-40 minutes AOW lol

And no pointsmod and no 2.5 credits per sec but 2 creds per sec.

 

I'm sorry I'm not as die hard as you Joetorp, I usually just go afk waiting for the game to end if Refinery gets destroyed in the first 5-10 minutes. But it takes ages for the game to end because your team starts repairing like crazy immediately after. It's happening in 50% of the rush maps I play on Rencorner, eithre Refinery or wf/air dies within 10 minutes.

I'm not sure how having to wait 90 seconds to buy a vehicle after wf/air dies doesn't severely cripple one team. Or only getting 1-1.5 creds a second with no Harvester. Or being allowd to buy weapons with your basic infantry going up against infinite ammo ramjets.

And if one team isn't able to destroy the enemy base after 60 minutes might also well revive the building they destroyed, they don't deserve the win.

Another thing that would be different would be disabling base defences on Field/Hourglass and/or SBHs just now and then. Or adding Obelisk/AGT to a rush map. Just to mix things up a bit instead of playing terrible fan maps like Tomb, Bio, Snow (which is fine with 24 players max) and Niagara the whole time

[shaitan]

Sheila/Vultima: what you're describing is Atomix. We never had that here, unfortunately.

[Joetorp]

8 hours ago, Iran said:

I'm sorry I'm not as die hard as you Joetorp, I usually just go afk waiting for the game to end if Refinery gets destroyed in the first 5-10 minutes

So you become part of the problem, instead of going afk and hampering your team, why don't you leave so a new player can take your place?  Players going afk become problematic cuz 1) they ain't doing anything, and 2) a new player could get assigned to the enemy.

Everyone complains about afk players,  afyer all these years of renegade, you'd think players would learn that they could rejoin the game and still be on their side they left from.

[Sheila]

5 hours ago, shaitan said:

Sheila/Vultima: what you're describing is Atomix. We never had that here, unfortunately.

I'm gathering proof right now and I'll prove that you're wrong!

Edited May 1, 2020 by Sheila

[shaitan]

Sheila, I know we've never had that in any iteration since 2012. Do you know why? I always wanted it, but it wasn't something we ever pulled off. Frankly, after Atomix/Allied-gaming fails, it wasn't that important.

[Sheila]

I think some guy you had a feud with, worked on Rencorner server using vets in 2012, and I remember that the vet system was used for a short amount of time. I even found some comments regarding it. But no need to dwell on this subject anyway, because RenCorner is beautiful in every way.

[Joetorp]

I seem to remember St0rm, mpf, or jelly had it.

 

[shaitan]

Oh shit, you know what? You're right, there was a brief history that we literally used Atomix modifications. We had Xpert here for a short while(September 2012), I totally forgot on purpose.

[shaitan]

Some highlights of your career back then:

[12/09/2012 02:14:04pm] Host: Veteran: Colonel Sheila is now reporting for duty!
[12/09/2012 03:08:57pm] Host: Veteran: Captain Sheila is now reporting for duty!
[11/09/2012 10:29:28am] Host: Veteran: Captain Sheila is now reporting for duty!
[11/09/2012 02:25:47pm] Host: Veteran: Officer Sheila is now reporting for duty!
[11/09/2012 02:47:14pm] Host: Veteran: Officer Sheila is now reporting for duty!
[11/09/2012 06:06:51pm] Host: Veteran: General Sheila is now reporting for duty!

[11/09/2012 09:10:18am] [Team] [-HOH-]Mikey: oh its sheila
[11/09/2012 09:10:30am] [Team] [-HOH-]Mikey: sheila rush in with a humvee 😛
[09/09/2012 06:09:37am] [Team] Sheila: why did obelisk kill me? i was spy

[Sheila]

Aww lol mikey bullying me!  This made me so emotional, all back then when I was a noobie... so much nostalgia Thank you a lot! ❤️

[Iran]

how is it teamhampering to wait till the game ends, starting to repair after the game is lost is even worse.

[Forithow]

36 minutes ago, Iran said:

how is it teamhampering to wait till the game ends, starting to repair after the game is lost is even worse.

It's much better than what some people did and repair the enemy team's tanks

[shaitan]

On 4/29/2020 at 4:14 PM, ice187dna said:

My ideas for a better Renegade:

• The obelisks should be purple. 

 

I'm pretty sure someone made a pink obelisk skin at one time. Too bad Renegade doesn't have what we used to have in Killing Floor: RPG's launching Purple Dildoes.

[masscarriers]

I do remember the pink obelisk, that was stupid AF

I also remember Field_TS, which was even worse

[DaDuKe]

yea Field_TS is the worst map ever I hate it

[Forithow]

if FieldTS had normal MCTs and no underground areas like it's pretending to be a singleplayer map, it would be significantly better imo, because the lack of walls for tuns to hop is interesting and rotatable MRLS is nice

[Sean]

I personally love Field_TS lol

I'd love if we, as sheila said could go back to the vet system that Atomix used to have, I always enjoyed that system.

[Mikey]

22 hours ago, Sheila said:

Aww lol mikey bullying me!  This made me so emotional, all back then when I was a noobie... so much nostalgia Thank you a lot! ❤️

 

23 hours ago, shaitan said:

Some highlights of your career back then:

[11/09/2012 09:10:18am] [Team] [-HOH-]Mikey: oh its sheila
[11/09/2012 09:10:30am] [Team] [-HOH-]Mikey: sheila rush in with a humvee 😛
[09/09/2012 06:09:37am] [Team] Sheila: why did obelisk kill me? i was spy

I was just giving you some encouragement, look at you now you're a superstar!

[Sheila]

Thank you so much for believing in me! We are all shining superstars! *Non-Renegaders not included, you suck!

 

Edited May 2, 2020 by Sheila

[ehh]

you could also buy shit with recs on AX

that system is far better then the current system tho, losing the bar/wf means nothing, if you have 30k credits

[Iran]

Yeah but the server runs pointmods so u get no points/creds for shooting enemy units. Only works if ur pointwhoring for an hour lol