!disablesounds

[Prulez]

Hey all,

I've been playing some Ren every now and then. It's good to see there is still a community going (relatively) strong for a game that's 20 years old.

When playing on this server, I have to admit that the chatsounds/killsounds kind of annoy me. The occasional sound now and then is fine, but the community appears to really like and/or use them. Now this is not a problem in itself, considering that the !disablesounds command exists, so I can tune this to my own liking. However, some sounds still appear to be enabled - be it either a !mad[x] command, or (I expect) some donators to the server which have their own killsounds.

A sound on join of someone is fine by me. However, I have just finished a match of Field (which already was 45 minutes of torture as is), where I was active on the field with my tank and/or technician, I couldn't help but get distracted by the killsound of someone, having to hear the same sound every ~30 seconds (which is no exaggeration). Once again, in moderation, sounds are fine. However, this was way too much and annoyed the living shit out of me.

As a former server owner, I totally understand the desire to make donations attractive and give specific perks to those who contribute. However, I'd like to draw your attention that these annoyances might lead to regular players being fed up, and subsequently leaving the game (at least one other player actively referenced this annoyance before (rage)quitting the game). Considering the marginal playercounts of Renegade nowadays, please consider to also disable all custom sounds when a player opts out of the custom sounds by using the !disablesounds command.

Thanks a lot for considering, and see you ingame soon! 

[shaitan]

To turn off individual sounds, try this: !togglesounds chatsounds/sounds/killsounds/music

I don't recall if they stop the mad sounds, since those are fds spammed ones.

[Prulez]

Hey shaitan,

Thanks. Just to clarify, I have to !disablesounds and !togglesounds the other ones? That doesn't appear to be intuitive, but I'll give it a shot.

[nameismud]

5 hours ago, Prulez said:

Hey shaitan,

Thanks. Just to clarify, I have to !disablesounds and !togglesounds the other ones? That doesn't appear to be intuitive, but I'll give it a shot.

What shaitan suggested works. The one you most likely want gone is the chatsounds since people spam things like "pirate" and "666". Try !ttoglesounds chatsounds. You have to type each type of sound command you want disabled individually.

[Itai795]

I agree with you Prulez both about how these sounds are annoying and both how unintuitive it is to disable all of them. Unfortunately I don't think the latter is going to be changed.

However, it is possible to disable all of them. I don't hear any of them (I wish I could tell you exactly how, like we said it's unintuitive, but I guess the suggestions from Shai and mud work).

[shaitan]

Sound system was remade by Blacky a few years ago(post 2 of his), most of them are in a brenbot .dat instead of the old always.dat, some are still my old .mixes(post 3 of his) when we add new sounds(rarely). !togglesounds <sound type> should take care of most of them.

[Itai795]

Eric, we promise our donators they will have their own sounds. Shai is quite reluctant to add new sounds for the exact reason you mentioned, but from the other hand we need to keep our promise. I think we add new sounds maybe once a year.

[shaitan]

Quit bitching. Those guys waited over a year for their sounds to be added.

Getpastme  = Feb 22, 2021
InspectorGadget = April 14, 2021
Lauset = May 29, 2021

[BiLLaBoNg]

@shaitan I think he is referring to about 3-4 people who have the same babycry.mp3 playing when they get a kill. I have it, he has it, and I know for certain at least 1 other does. His point is, he gets that donators get something unique to them, but now its getting out of hand with certain killsounds. I could be wrong - I don't completely get ExEric; the guy cheats in a 20+ year old game, but I think what I mentioned above is close to accurate. 

 

That said, I asked for BabyCry prior to knowing ExEric had it, so I'm more than happy to have it removed.

Edited March 31, 2022 by BiLLaBoNg

[BiLLaBoNg]

Just now, BiLLaBoNg said:

double post, please delete

 

Edited March 31, 2022 by BiLLaBoNg

[nameismud]

!togglesounds killsounds

[nameismud]

39 minutes ago, ExEric3 said:

OSTKHysterisK = babycry.wav

ExEric3 = babycry.wav

Zuendschnur = win_shutdown.wav/mp3 have it also with someone

Why I should disable killsounds completelly just because shaitan want be nice and want give something to donators? If he is lazy to look who have which kill sound then he should remove old players which doesnt donated anymore after some time I typed it above already (feel free remove my babycry.wav). Or if he want have big list of killsounds for new donators setup completelly different kill sound which isnt used. Every donator = unique kill sound.

I get it. I don't know why anyone would want to hear that nonsense but that's just me. Shaitan said it took over a year and a half for the people mentioned above to get their sounds added. So that should pretty much answer your question. I have mentioned before I'd like to help in that regard, but it may be above my capacities IDK. I'm just happy that I can still play ren in 2022.

[AprilWar]

14 hours ago, ExEric3 said:

Im bitching? Im just reporting from others what issues have with joining on RC

Lol don't worry, it's just the typical shitan response. According to EA mod rules, you're not supposed to have any in-game benefits for donators anyways.

4 hours ago, ExEric3 said:

Zuendschnur = win_shutdown.wav/mp3 have it also with someone

It's chris' too but he doesn't play anymore, and I don't blame him x)

[shaitan]

I had already gone through the database to see that, I just didn't post it. Here is the "30" players using the same 4 killsounds:

Oddly enough, it looks like 25 active players out of that 49 list. They sure as hell aren't all using the same killsounds. With the 5 ctt.mp3's: Manuel = capt.jackoff. Blacky= bigwrench/test(going to guess the ahahaha person is him). War0n hasn't played in years. 

How many times is BabyCry shown? Three. So what, it's the same list you all got to pick from.

As for removing sounds. Why? They were already added that time blacky redid the brenbot and added a bunch. I made these guys wait for so long, because they wanted brand new sounds that'd possibly wreck peoples' current downloads. Yet, I did it at this time, because I was already adding a few maps you guys wanted in the chats here to test out. If it was going to give people version mismatches, then it'd be worth it. Having said that, it didn't actually turn out that way...it went surprisingly well.

Yes, Eric, you were bitching: "And mainly stop adding new ttfs packages with 4 new sounds like inspector... and solidgold." You had a slew of demands(plus IRCD), it looks like bitching to me. That is how it always comes off to me, in case you haven't figure it out by now.

To throw you a bone: it's entirely possible someone may be using !psound after a kill. Which, would be weird to waste the typing if they already have a killsound playing.

April: I am annoyed, because you guys are making shit up. As for your ban and rage: I asked the mod to rethink it weeks ago. I didn't feel like pushing, because you were in fact breaking our fucking rules. You can throw your temper tantrum on your other discord and 'cut RC off from your RenHD Launcher'; I don't really give a rats ass.

[AprilWar]

Lol poor exeric never did anything to anybody. Can't people just point out valid stuff without calling it bitching or throwing temper tantrums tho? XD

I did find it annoying when exeric and the biggest noob of all @BiLLaBoNg got +50 kills each one 3 secs apart and same kill sound would play over and over.

2 hours ago, shaitan said:

April: I am annoyed, because you guys are making shit up. As for your ban and rage: I asked the mod to rethink it weeks ago. I didn't feel like pushing, because you were in fact breaking our fucking rules. You can throw your temper tantrum on your other discord and 'cut RC off from your RenHD Launcher'; I don't really give a rats ass.

As if this was relevant at all. Take it easy bro, no need to get all jumpy. I was annoyed too weeks ago because I was banned for something as insignificant as invising (even when I showed I wasn't), but that's in the past now.

[nameismud]

1 hour ago, AprilWar said:

Lol poor exeric never did anything to anybody. Can't people just point out valid stuff without calling it bitching or throwing temper tantrums tho? XD

I did find it annoying when exeric and the biggest noob of all @BiLLaBoNg got +50 kills each one 3 secs apart and same kill sound would play over and over.

As if this was relevant at all. Take it easy bro, no need to get all jumpy. I was annoyed too weeks ago because I was banned for something as insignificant as invising (even when I showed I wasn't), but that's in the past now.

The biggest crybaby I’ve encountered in this server is complaining about a “tantrum”. I apologize for fueling a fire, but damn you are a piece of work. 

[AprilWar]

3 hours ago, nameismud said:

The biggest crybaby I’ve encountered in this server is complaining about a “tantrum”. I apologize for fueling a fire, but damn you are a piece of work. 

Nah. I understand the temptation, but you guys aren't gonna make this about me now.

2 hours ago, ExEric3 said:

For that reason I but we have access and contact with Jonwil or Unstoppable.

Unstoppable is n00b

[shaitan]

Eric, you do it all of the time. You have a list of demands, and you word them in that manner. You and I discussed the Unreal problem before(July 19, 2020), I am not touching that until we're forced to. Unreal guys gave us a bypass/trick back then, and told me it wouldn't work on future unreals. It had to do with opers, brenbots not opering up on ssl ports(been awhile, so I can't recall fully), and that linux box.

The ttfs was cleared out not that long ago(maybe 2 years), and not much had been added in between sound-wise...maps don't count, we use those. You get angry anytime anything is added to it due to your installers. If it isn't broke, don't fix it.

 

 

April: you are the one who called me "shitan"(along with the other times you have), and gave that lovely veiled EA threat. Do you truly believe I am so stupid that I cannot read between the lines?

 

[trunkskgb]

On 3/18/2022 at 7:04 PM, Prulez said:

Hey all,

I've been playing some Ren every now and then. It's good to see there is still a community going (relatively) strong for a game that's 20 years old.

When playing on this server, I have to admit that the chatsounds/killsounds kind of annoy me. The occasional sound now and then is fine, but the community appears to really like and/or use them. Now this is not a problem in itself, considering that the !disablesounds command exists, so I can tune this to my own liking. However, some sounds still appear to be enabled - be it either a !mad[x] command, or (I expect) some donators to the server which have their own killsounds.

A sound on join of someone is fine by me. However, I have just finished a match of Field (which already was 45 minutes of torture as is), where I was active on the field with my tank and/or technician, I couldn't help but get distracted by the killsound of someone, having to hear the same sound every ~30 seconds (which is no exaggeration). Once again, in moderation, sounds are fine. However, this was way too much and annoyed the living shit out of me.

As a former server owner, I totally understand the desire to make donations attractive and give specific perks to those who contribute. However, I'd like to draw your attention that these annoyances might lead to regular players being fed up, and subsequently leaving the game (at least one other player actively referenced this annoyance before (rage)quitting the game). Considering the marginal playercounts of Renegade nowadays, please consider to also disable all custom sounds when a player opts out of the custom sounds by using the !disablesounds command.

Thanks a lot for considering, and see you ingame soon! 

I feel you bro, I disable ALL these sounds/music/etc just about every time I play. Not only because some of them are flat out annoying, but people abuse them. People always abuse shit, that's life I guess. Plus I also have music playing every time I play. Just turn them off and game on! :)

[N0]

Renegade is serious business 

[AprilWar]

8 hours ago, shaitan said:

Do you truly believe I am so stupid that I cannot read between the lines?

 

yes

[Prulez]

On 4/1/2022 at 5:38 PM, trunkskgb said:

I feel you bro, I disable ALL these sounds/music/etc just about every time I play. Not only because some of them are flat out annoying, but people abuse them. People always abuse shit, that's life I guess. Plus I also have music playing every time I play. Just turn them off and game on! :)

Yeah - just checking in: "!togglesounds sounds" disables everything. I didn't catch that at first and that works now. Thanks a lot shaitan and others involved.

  

On 4/1/2022 at 6:26 PM, Fr3nZy said:

Renegade is serious business 

Absolutely, and it has been for 20 years.

Edited April 5, 2022 by Prulez