Rotation and new map ideas

[Forithow]

On 1/10/2023 at 7:36 PM, Lauset said:

I like the Commander @PwnCall map, its interesting, also think Marsh_BETA could be a good map

This would a nice map to play on, but I can't find a version that has those missing things fixed, like the missing texture for barracks and the missing interior for construction yards, or ob lights and missing mammoth tank model, etc.

Edited January 15, 2023 by Forithow

[XtremePro]

Thinking about what maps fill the server...  I wouldn't mind seeing more Glacier Flying and City Flying in the rotation.  People seem to like those maps and server fills during them.  Obviously Field and Under are the king of filling the server.  

[UksRene]

5 hours ago, XtremePro said:

Thinking about what maps fill the server...  I wouldn't mind seeing more Glacier Flying and City Flying in the rotation.  People seem to like those maps and server fills during them.  Obviously Field and Under are the king of filling the server.  

Yes quick maps like canyon complex etc normally kill servers quickly and those maps you mention fills up server also walls flying rather than plain walls 

 

 

[InspectorGadget]

5 hours ago, XtremePro said:

Thinking about what maps fill the server...  I wouldn't mind seeing more Glacier Flying and City Flying in the rotation.  People seem to like those maps and server fills during them.  Obviously Field and Under are the king of filling the server.  

under and field used to fill servers. these days you can´t really say that anymore. see how often they get voted or half of the players leave when under or field begin.

 

 

[PwnCall]

I can’t stand the 3hr plus games so whenever it’s under or field I bounce. I just don’t see the fun in blasting the same spot with a tank without moving.  
 

I know these maps take teamwork to win but most of the time it’s the best snipers holding all the other teams infantry in their base (especially under with one tunnel). So the infantry just end up repairing and it becoming a stalemate.

 

I love the fast paced maps where it’s easy to sneak in and multiple entrances.
 

I think also as the player base gets older people have less time to dedicate and would rather play 3-5 maps with the 2 hours they have available to play than just camping on under. IMO 

[shaitan]

+/- Equals can or cannot find; if you have it, upload the - maps. If they're MPF only maps, then negative.
+ Arid
+ Coast_Flying
+ Crevasse
+ FjordsTR
+ Marsh_BETA

+ Atoll_b6 ( (MPF only?)UberMapPack_Unzipped)
- Caldera (MPF only?)
- Old_Times (MPF only?)
+ TheCanyon ( (MPF only?)UberMapPack_Unzipped)

Suggestions in here:
Replace Sand with Gobi
Replace one Under with Hourglass
Replace DeDust2 with Creekdale
Replace Deth_River with Hangmans_Canyon
Replace 1 under/field with Dawn_raiddb/bunkersts

PwnCall's maps. May need Scripts updated for these ones(Commander especially):
Commanders (GDI and Nod have a commander)
Walls G (GDI vs GDI version of Walls)
Field_2 (no Agt/Obi with extra Turrets/GTs)
Field_3 (no Agt/Obi without Turrets/GTs)
Field _Flying

Btw, I wasn't expecting so many people coming up with a bunch of maps lol. Fuck me ofc, I should've said "rotation" only.  I'll give you a few more days to narrow things down, before making a list ingame for this.

 

 

 

P.S. Keep in mind the maps you guys want, may not play on ours. Blacky did do some updates, and it's not fully updated with the latest scripts(per Eric's posting).

[PwnCall]

Caldera is MPF only until the scripts are updated by TT.

I have old times somewhere I’ll find it it shouldn’t be MPF only.

 

commander or the other ones by me don’t need any special scripts and should work fine, I’ll get updated versions of them.

[Madeen]

Damn, Hangman's Canyon would be awesome. It's probably been 12 years or more since I played that map.

[PwnCall]

I think there were issues with the map, not sure if they were ever fixed, fun map although too big IMO

[InspectorGadget]

yeah as i said, under and field aren´t as popular anymore so cutting something down here might be a good idea. personally i could also go without siege i´m pretty over that map but idk how the server overall feels about it. i think we could bring back bunkers for a while and i also think bio is a fun map to play. both bunkers and bio also don´t work forever though, it´s nice to bring them back for a couple of months and then it´s time to remove them again^^

 

in the current rotation we have iceberg and de_dust2 directly behind each other. giving they´re both new maps made by fori i´d spread them out a lot more if you want to keep them.

 

 

[Itai795]

On 1/16/2023 at 2:34 PM, InspectorGadget said:

under and field used to fill servers. these days you can´t really say that anymore. see how often they get voted or half of the players leave when under or field begin.

 

 

 

On 1/16/2023 at 8:10 PM, shaitan said:

Suggestions in here:

Replace Deth_River with Hangmans_Canyon

deth_river is one of my favorite and in my opinion most fun map we have. Even when your team is down to one building, defending it is still as enjoyable as the rest of the game stages.

[PwnCall]

Here is Old Times

 

C&C_Old_Times_b5.zip

[PwnCall]

Here is WallsG

1890989296_CC_Walls_G_b5.zip

[InspectorGadget]

yeah deth_river should stay for sure. i think it´s also a lot better since arties and mrls we´re allowed again. i don´t even remember having a really boring game there ever

[Goonhaven]

I made the suggestion for replacing Deth_River but having looked at the stats: 48.9% win as GDI, 51.1% win as NOD for the year 2022, it's one of the more balanced maps (thought it was a NOD map, but not that significantly) so happy to change my mind. Perhaps replace one Canyon map (it's in the rot twice, once as RxD, once without) with the Hangmans_Canyon instead? That map always ends up with one team having no Ref and then having to endure their slow demise.

[MarcPoulet]

Deth_river is one of the best map for me too. Please keep it :P

For hourglass, as I already suggested, removing arty/mrls could change the gameplay and force rushes instead of hill camping...

[Forithow]

On 1/17/2023 at 1:10 AM, shaitan said:

+/- Equals can or cannot find; if you have it, upload the - maps. If they're MPF only maps, then negative.
+ Arid
+ Coast_Flying
+ Crevasse
+ FjordsTR
+ Marsh_BETA

+ Atoll_b6 ( (MPF only?)UberMapPack_Unzipped)
- Caldera (MPF only?)
- Old_Times (MPF only?)
+ TheCanyon ( (MPF only?)UberMapPack_Unzipped)

Suggestions in here:
Replace Sand with Gobi
Replace one Under with Hourglass
Replace DeDust2 with Creekdale
Replace Deth_River with Hangmans_Canyon
Replace 1 under/field with Dawn_raiddb/bunkersts

PwnCall's maps. May need Scripts updated for these ones(Commander especially):
Commanders (GDI and Nod have a commander)
Walls G (GDI vs GDI version of Walls)
Field_2 (no Agt/Obi with extra Turrets/GTs)
Field_3 (no Agt/Obi without Turrets/GTs)
Field _Flying

Btw, I wasn't expecting so many people coming up with a bunch of maps lol. Fuck me ofc, I should've said "rotation" only.  I'll give you a few more days to narrow things down, before making a list ingame for this.

 

 

 

P.S. Keep in mind the maps you guys want, may not play on ours. Blacky did do some updates, and it's not fully updated with the latest scripts(per Eric's posting).

Marsh_BETA will need a bit of fixing. Here's some other old maps that people may remember, could add those in the server maplist now and maybe have them in rotation?

Metropolis, Meadow, Greenery, Dusk and SeasideCanyon (If you want less base defense maps, then use SeasideSunsset instead)

C&C_Dusk.zip C&C_Metropolis.zip 1082668387_CC_Meadow.zip C&C_Greenery.rar 92872345_CC_SeasideCanyon.zip

[PwnCall]

Seaside canyon is very good IMO

meadow is kinda too big I think

[Forithow]

1 hour ago, PwnCall said:

Seaside canyon is very good IMO

meadow is kinda too big I think

You're mistaking Meadow (small map with no conyard/comm center) with Country_Meadow (that big ass map)

[shaitan]

You guys are doing the exact opposite of what I wanted. You've added another 6 maps into the list, when you need to whittle(debate) the list down.

People aren't going to read/do the announcements in the game if there's a bunch. Let alone it'd be me making individual poll scripts.

 

Someone make a poll topic with all of those maps/ideas, please.

[XtremePro]

On 1/17/2023 at 8:47 PM, Itai795 said:

 

deth_river is one of my favorite and in my opinion most fun map we have. Even when your team is down to one building, defending it is still as enjoyable as the rest of the game stages.

Death River def seems like one of the more popular maps on the server.  

[UnitXc]

Im now ready after several hundred hours to put forward my map C&C_00Temple_K for consideration, ive managed to rid it of its horrible glitches finally.

[InspectorGadget]

lol i think i played this years ago. but on a server with really low population. no idea how it plays with a decent amount of players. for low player amount it was too big imo

[shaitan]

[Forithow]

Feel free to take IcebergV3 out of the rotation and I'd say perhaps replace any repeat maps in the current rotation. Obvously following your "separate base Def maps with 2 Non-Base Def maps" idea (but also trying to make it so that it's 1 long match followed by 2 fastpaced matches if possible with some new maps sprinkled in there and keeping the amount of maps to 24 like your original rotations, the square brackets indicate that they have base def

So my idea would probably be something like:

[Field_RxD], Complex, Greenery, [Mesa],

Volcano_RxD,  Walls_Flying, [Dusk], Canyon_RxD,

Tomb, [Arid], Islands_RxD, Uphill_RxD,

[Under], Sand_RxD, Atoll, [Old_Times],

Walls, Bio, [Deth_River], Temple_00,

DeDust2, [Marsh] (If you can find a fixed version), Snow_RxD, BunkersTS

 

And then any other maps that were suggested can still be in the server and a mod can set them as next map if everyone agrees to it (like different variations of Field that PwnCall made)

Could replace Sand with Gobi or Crevasse, or TheCanyon as they're all infantry maps and DeDust2 with Creekdale, Deth_River with Hangmans_Canyon
Other maps like SeasideCanyon/SeasideSunset, Metropolis, Meadow, Hourglass (with no MRLS/arties might be interesting), Glacier_Flying/City_Flying, Airai, variations of Field, Caldera, FjordsTR can also replace any of the maps in the rotation if people want that, can also keep them in the server for now and people can ask mods to switch to them when they're not in rotation

Edited January 23, 2023 by Forithow