Fun Fact: Why Team Stacking Is NOT Right!

[karmai]

If you dont want people to be able to stack teams then disable rtc.

[iK4l3l]

12 minutes ago, NLsRene said:

you are super distractive when it comes to you talking in F2 chat, maybe you can talk and play, but while doing so there will always be people reading and responding to your nonsense. Maybe even your own teammates, so how does that help?

you maybe right but again its a public server, maybe ppl like talking in the game :) they actually do not care that much about only wining..

[iK4l3l]

8 minutes ago, NLsRene said:

dude 15247 games played lmao exeric3 played 6518 and is 6. 

right i play a lil too much.. ok just ask ppl if i am useless or a total noob in game..

[NLsRene]

6 minutes ago, iK4l3l said:

i get you, u just want to play the game and expect from every other player on the server do the same thing, templay and have a motivation to play the game in a perfect way..

but again it is a public server and not all of the players on it are perfect..

renewars (im not sure mentioning about other server names are allowed here or not, if not im sorry, a mod delete it pls) is what you are looking for.. they are perfect, almost all players are skilled and motivated to tp and win.. also specs are not even allowed to use F2 so the players wont get distracted..

All i can say to that whole stuff, it is super hard to do, lack of mods force the server to have a !tc command, you don't want to have 10vs20 do you? You think it could work that the team you start with, is your team to go. but if that team is stacked to the core and the other team is leaving and it becomes 20v10, you just empty the server in a nutshell and losing more and more players. 

I don't know how you could balance every game better than the way it is. I know for a fact that in weekends u usually have 40-60 maybe even 70 players in game, and then you don't notice a stacked team because it should have good players in either  team. 

Edited January 8 by NLsRene

[iK4l3l]

2 minutes ago, NLsRene said:

I know for a fact that in weekends u usually have 40-60 maybe even 70 players in game, and then you don't notice a stacked team because it should have good players in either  team.

true, in large games like 60 players stacking doesnt work/matter.. i witnessed many times the stacked team lost the game in a crowded game..

[NLsRene]

6 minutes ago, iK4l3l said:

right i play a lil too much.. ok just ask ppl if i am useless or a total noob in game..

nah i dona't need to ask, i suck at aow myself when it comes to that. But i tank and then i want to play. i don't want to chat in game, i only chat to respond or shout and try to get people in tanks to finish a never ending story. 

You are a great guy, you just talk crap in game, or being a sbh now and then.. doesn't matter. 

My point was, no one is perfect. Want to break the !tc system = remove the command. 

Like allowing E-fire, i think you should try it for a month. Because now i would say it might empty the server due to, to many uneven teams and people leaving one team till it becomes uplayable (just a thought, not a fact or anything). 

Or of course it would force players to play... even on the "weaker side".  < which i hope, because a team can look stacked.. but i am sure 7 out of 10 times if that other team would try they can give a hell of a fight back if not win. 

Edited January 8 by NLsRene

[iK4l3l]

3 minutes ago, NLsRene said:

i suck at aow myself when it comes to that.

you are quite far from sucking at aow, you are one of the best players in ren both at inf and tanking..

[WNxH3adSh00t]

This topic is sssspicy

[NLsRene]

Just now, iK4l3l said:

you are quite far from sucking at aow, you are one of the best players in ren both at inf and tanking..

i just play tank far to little for "it" to look good tbh. But i can get a team in tanks and help push XD. anyways i am in for trying without the !tc command. Didn't a couple days ago, some have a discussion about changing "good players" to the other team? only for that reason i would agree to remove it. unless it really is unfair and a mod is available to make it fair. 

[karmai]

50 minutes ago, NLsRene said:

dude 15247 games played lmao exeric3 played 6518 and is 6. 

Yeah but the way you get ladder points is completely screwed up.  

 

Like deaths hurt you as much as kills help.  And you get more points for repping buildings than you do for killing tanks

 

Eric knows this.  So he afk reps building in long games and snipes and protects his KD and gets big laddder points.

 

The only thing that should  matter is wins and losses.  And your percentage of wins to losses to gamed played

[NLsRene]

22 minutes ago, karmai said:

Yeah but the way you get ladder points is completely screwed up.  

 

Like deaths hurt you as much as kills help.  And you get more points for repping buildings than you do for killing tanks

 

Eric knows this.  So he afk reps building in long games and snipes and protects his KD and gets big laddder points.

 

The only thing that should  matter is wins and losses.  And your percentage of wins to losses to gamed played

If you care about ranks in 2026 :p I get you, i would agree with that concept or at least instead of overall ranks make it only monthly like WOL days

[MarcPoulet]

29 minutes ago, NLsRene said:

If you care about ranks in 2026 :p I get you, i would agree with that concept or at least instead of overall ranks make it only monthly like WOL days

I hope he cares about rank as much as the poll result about the best renegade sniper 

[Assault]

1 hour ago, MarcPoulet said:

J'espère qu'il se soucie autant du classement que du résultat du sondage sur le meilleur tireur d'élite renégat. 

I think this poll is rigged; the one with the highest score is actually the worst, lol. Is it because I encouraged people to vote for you in the previous message? I don't know, lol. It's strange that people voted for you in this poll, thinking you were the best.

[Assault]

Parpaing for you

Edited January 8 by Assault

[CAP]

5 hours ago, NLsRene said:

 Maybe if you wouldn't talk about food, or your whereabouts in game, playing a sbh sitting in base/field doing absolute 0.. AND JUST PLAY THE FUCKING GAME. People might want to stick with your team. 

Yes people stack, i change teams 4-5 times if i am sniping myself, because it gets bored when they won't show themselves or to scared to get into the tunnels. then i change to have some fun and actually fight someone rather than waiting 30 minutes. 

 

Yes some stack teams, especially those mid tier players or high tier public players what ever, point is all they can do against it is blocking those abusing the command the most. so the other people that are maybe weaker, but who will play no matter what can change for once. 

But before you talk about fun, imagine how your teammates feel when you are hitting F2, to tell people that you are about to move to tokio, or that you just ate a pizza while you are in a fucking med tank not helping a teammate who is right in front of you fighting a other tank off!! 

Here is you doing whatever you think is good for your teammates and this is just 1 example: 
 

 

NLsRene literally mentioned all the points @iK4l3l so stop being useless to team and try to help them actually 
Which will make players not stack and stick around , and if you still have so many problems maybe play something else instead. 

[WNxH3adSh00t]

7 hours ago, NLsRene said:

 Maybe if you wouldn't talk about food, or your whereabouts in game, playing a sbh sitting in base/field doing absolute 0.. AND JUST PLAY THE FUCKING GAME. People might want to stick with your team. 

Yes people stack, i change teams 4-5 times if i am sniping myself, because it gets bored when they won't show themselves or to scared to get into the tunnels. then i change to have some fun and actually fight someone rather than waiting 30 minutes. 

 

Yes some stack teams, especially those mid tier players or high tier public players what ever, point is all they can do against it is blocking those abusing the command the most. so the other people that are maybe weaker, but who will play no matter what can change for once. 

But before you talk about fun, imagine how your teammates feel when you are hitting F2, to tell people that you are about to move to tokio, or that you just ate a pizza while you are in a fucking med tank not helping a teammate who is right in front of you fighting a other tank off!! 

Here is you doing whatever you think is good for your teammates and this is just 1 example: 
 

 

 

Over one and a half hours on that stupid map, at one point we had 3 or 4 SBHs in the Nod base and neither one really did anything.

Not even at the very end when Nod first rushed the WF could Ik4 ion something as he said he's in the Nod base with a ion. Just stood there with others and after almost 2 hours of a stupid match he only got 600 score.

There's a bunch of people in this game who literally just walk around and do nothing, some are noobs and some just troll. At the end someone asked who wants a APC and he kills himself as the sbh in the Nod base to take that apc.

[iK4l3l]

34 minutes ago, WNxH3adSh00t said:

Not even at the very end when Nod first rushed the WF could Ik4 ion something as he said he's in the Nod base with a ion. Just stood there with others and after almost 2 hours of a stupid match he only got 600 score.

i wasnt in game from the start of the map, joined at last 30 mins..

i even typed !time when i joined and it said 1:00 hrs..

and when i joined ref was dead, i had no money, not much to do..

then i got an sbh dna and we had 3 sbh in team, fuhwe is one of them, he even pmed me "we are sbh in nod base, come we c4 ref".. i answered ok..

then i could only make it into the nod base like 7-8 mins after this pm, cuz front was mined.. but then the other sbhs were dead.. so i was alone sbh in nod base and i had no ion..

never said i had ion.. i just said i was in nod base with sbh so if we got other sbh, join me, we can c4 ref..

all these can be seen in the logs..

[WNxH3adSh00t]

I haven't really paid attention to the playerlist and thought you were one of them, my bad.

[iK4l3l]

np

[cooldude7]

Y'all remember when we had squads? Now THAT was stacking. 

[Assault]

16 minutes ago, cooldude7 said:

Vous vous souvenez quand on avait des escouades ? Ça, c’était en train de s’empiler.

Let's vote for the return of squads lol. Let's ask our dear friend IK4131, he's very knowledgeable about topics.

[iK4l3l]

17 minutes ago, cooldude7 said:

Y'all remember when we had squads? Now THAT was stacking. 

squads was total stacking, after its disabled some ppl started stacking with tc..

when someone leaves, they change teams in the blink of an eye..

[iK4l3l]

guys do u ever know how random players who likely never use tc feel like when a few good players change team and do stacking?..

they just say "great, now we gonna lose, the map is ruined"

[ArcticPrism]

We already removed squads to address stacking which means there's only a chance of people being on the same team rather than guaranteed. More often than not people just want to play with their friends because that's more fun and maybe they want to do in a more relaxed place than a competitive server.

[Goztow]

I really think people don't 'stack' to win games but they 'stack' to find teamplay. I'll being the lone exception he just 'stacks' to piss people off.