Mikey Posted July 8, 2015 Posted July 8, 2015 Where are the scones to accompany this fine tradition of us British people?
BeerBaron Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 What I believe is that the police cannot protect me, and serve themselves. And without police to enforce a law, i dont really care about it.
Joetorp Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 BeerBaron (your avatar says it all), Personally I believe you don't know enough American history, to know how big of an asshole you showed yourself to be! It may not be your fault, you just may be STUPID! Before you start putting up a bullshit comic that is not funny, but shows disdain for the people who fought and died for you to preserve the right for you to make an fucking ass of yourself, THINK! What about that comic inspired you to post it here? Was it the ship with Boston Tea Party on it? Do you even know what xenophobe mean? Do you really believe the Republican party has brought us to the edge of economic disaster? What responsibility do the Democrats have? After all, we have a president who has raised the national debt to $18.5 trillion more than double since he came in. I thought you might be some 12 or 13 yr old, but you are 26, OMG didn't you learn anything about the history of this great land? People like you, the uninformed, don't deserve to vote and I hope you don't until you get to know what the fuck is really going on. Joe 1
BeerBaron Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 Wow really... Both parties' politicians are elected with campaign contributions donated by the wealthy. Politicians pass laws that serve those contributors' interests, not the voters, so that when they cannot be re-elected they have job security as some high payed executive. The decisions the President can actually make are very limited and while he may be making stupid decisions, he is more or less a puppet for the majority party and not responsible for the majority of the national deficit. That deficit is the interest generated by the Federal Reserve for loans made to central banks. Loans of massive ammounts of money created from nothing that we have to pay a % back because a central bank ran out of funds. The President appoints a chairman of the Federal Reserve but that is the only control the govt has over it because it is privately owned. Federal income tax is theoretically collected only to pay off the deficit that is owed to the Fed but somewhere between 1910-1920 the supreme court ruled that income tax was unconstitutional. This ruling makes no difference since there is no actual law requiring people to pay it. BTW, my previous comment is completely accurate. Police cannot take action until a law has been broken. At the same time the individual police officers' primary concern is making an arrest that is good for their career. So tell me what any of this has to do with Veterans that fought and died for our country and our country's interests. 1
RnD Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 Well, I can see this topic is on a highway to pissing everyone off, I have an idea, I am gonna start adding in my own crap. 1
Joetorp Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 Ok, here goes: Both parties' politicians are elected with campaign contributions donated by the wealthy. Only the wealthy? So all the calls people get from the political parties that ask for donations go where? Yes the wealthy have more to contribute, but there is a cap ($2000, I believe) on donations, unless special circumstances. Politicians pass laws that serve those contributors' interests, not the voters, so that when they cannot be re-elected they have job security as some high payed executive. It seems that way, but I believe the lobbyists are the culprit. The decisions the President can actually make are very limited and while he may be making stupid decisions, he is more or less a puppet for the majority party and not responsible for the majority of the national deficit. What country do you live in? The President sets the agenda, if he is a puppet of the majority party, remember who the majority party was in the first 2 years of his administration. Instead of working to get us out of a recession, his majority party (in both the House and Senate) spent their time writing a 2700 page bill (that was so poorly written, btw) and shoved it down the minority's party throat (3 days to read 2700 pages) to a point that not one of the minority party voted for it. That was the House, In the Senate, we had the Majority party leader, obfuscate over 400 bills, that were passed by the house but never got to the floor of the Senate. Fast forward to 2014 when the majority party was defeated and the minority party now had control of the house and senate. The only voice the people have is by the vote and the people spoke clearly. What does the President do? Ignore the wishes of the people to carry on his foolish agenda. Unprecedented and arrogant. His slogan of "Hope and Change" has given us (now over 6 years later , no hope and no change. No hope for the millions of people that do not have jobs, and no change (when you look at the deficit), he has managed to spend it all. That deficit is the interest generated by the Federal Reserve for loans made to central banks. Loans of massive amounts of money created from nothing that we have to pay a % back because a central bank ran out of funds. Bullshit! That is like saying, I am in debt cuz of the credit card company charging me interest. If you didn't charge anything, there wouldn't be any interest owed. The President appoints a chairman of the Federal Reserve but that is the only control the govt has over it because it is privately owned. In this case, Thank God. If the President had control, I think he would have made our country insolvent a lot earlier than now. Federal income tax is theoretically collected only to pay off the deficit that is owed to the Fed but somewhere between 1910-1920 the supreme court ruled that income tax was unconstitutional. This ruling makes no difference since there is no actual law requiring people to pay it. Again Bullshit! Read the 16th amendment passed in 1913 BTW, my previous comment is completely accurate. Police cannot take action until a law has been broken. At the same time the individual police officers' primary concern is making an arrest that is good for their career. Dumb comment! Police enforce the law, why blame police for doing their job? You really think all police officers are willing to put their life on the line to promote their career? If there is a problem with the law, then blame the elected officials who write the law. Don't blame the police. So tell me what any of this has to do with Veterans that fought and died for our country and our country's interests. Maybe you think invoking the armed forces members who fought and died to protect our way of life is a cliche, I served and went to Vietnam, you obviously couldn't be bothered to serve, unless you are disabled and couldn't get in. Freedom of speech allows us to debate any topic, unless you are on the left where they believe in freedom of speech as long as you agree with them, why else do we have political correctness? It didn't come from the Republicans... Joe 2
BillieJoe67 Posted July 9, 2015 Author Posted July 9, 2015 Y'all need to calm down and drink some tea 2
shaitan Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 BeerBaron (your avatar says it all), Personally I believe you don't know enough American history, to know how big of an asshole you showed yourself to be! It may not be your fault, you just may be STUPID! Before you start putting up a bullshit comic that is not funny, but shows disdain for the people who fought and died for you to preserve the right for you to make an fucking ass of yourself, THINK! What about that comic inspired you to post it here? Was it the ship with Boston Tea Party on it? Do you even know what xenophobe mean? Do you really believe the Republican party has brought us to the edge of economic disaster? What responsibility do the Democrats have? After all, we have a president who has raised the national debt to $18.5 trillion more than double since he came in. I thought you might be some 12 or 13 yr old, but you are 26, OMG didn't you learn anything about the history of this great land? People like you, the uninformed, don't deserve to vote and I hope you don't until you get to know what the fuck is really going on. Joe You do know the first year of a President's term they are dealing with the last President's debt and have no real control over it? You're complaining about Obama jacking it up. Obama has about 7.4T, the last Bush had about 4.9T in debt. He had what exactly to show for his 4.9T in debt? Oh yeah, paying on a war(which unless there's looting involved, nets us $0). Obama at least has some shit to show for his debt. When I look at history, I see Rep's messing everything up, Dem's having to fix it(and it usually costs us out the ass). On another note Joe, you need to stop attacking people, you were the reason that other topic was removed. 1
RnD Posted July 9, 2015 Posted July 9, 2015 Oh come now, Joe is just standing up for his own beliefs, what is wrong with that?
BeerBaron Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Standing up for beliefs is completely fine and is what makes The United States great. Insulting someone else because their beliefs differ is ignorant. http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/contriblimits.shtml I thought that the limit was $50,000 so I'll concede that point. http://www.scholastic.com/teachers/article/seven-roles-one-president All presidents are puppets. His slogan (and any politician's) was created by a campaign manager so that people will vote for him. He can point a direction but its up to other people to make it happen. The laws passed that increase govt spending are written and passed by Congress without any presidential involvement. I thought old guys watched C-SPAN. http://www.facethefactsusa.org/facts/who-holds-the-note-look-in-the-mirror-infographic "As of June 2013, the federal government’s outstanding debt surpassed $16 trillion. Who are the nation’s creditors? The government owes the most money to — itself. U.S. government agencies, including giant trust funds of the Social Security and Medicare systems, and the independent Federal Reserve System account for 41 percent of the federal debt, more than $2 of every $5." 3 former IRS agents, a juror from a tax evasion trial, and former Sen. Ron Paul. If you dont finish the video, you admit I am right. If I were to steal from you, punch you in the face, or shoot you in the chest, the police cannot act against me until I have actually done it. Is that protecting you? And again, So tell me what any of this has to do with Veterans that fought and died for our country and our country's interests.
Volcom Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 I think we need to stand up for our beliefs without insulting the other party. I think swearing at someone is a lot different than swearing in a rant. Go ahead and debate your country. By all means debate is good in the proper context, but let's try and do it without insults and name calling. That something we do not want the public to see from our staff. 1
Joetorp Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 You do know the first year of a President's term they are dealing with the last President's debt and have no real control over it? You're complaining about Obama jacking it up. Obama has about 7.4T, the last Bush had about 4.9T in debt. He had what exactly to show for his 4.9T in debt? Oh yeah, paying on a war(which unless there's looting involved, nets us $0). Obama at least has some shit to show for his debt. When I look at history, I see Rep's messing everything up, Dem's having to fix it(and it usually costs us out the ass). On another note Joe, you need to stop attacking people, you were the reason that other topic was removed. Bush handed over about $8T. Shai you have a selected memory, The present President said in a speech before he got elected that Bush's debt was unpatriotic being so high. If I do your math, lemme see, 7.4 + 4.9 = 12.3. If you haven't seen the debt clock lately You gotta love these liberals, "Paying for a war" WE GOT ATTACKED Shai! (I bit my tongue cuz I can feel the anger) Do you remember almost 3000 people died ? You do what you must Shai, If you want to remove this topic, I guess I'll never see Beerbarons response. The truth is you are full of shit! You think the Democrats are the saviors, I say they are the reason for the ill's in this country! Maybe you like what the country has become, a socialist state where the 40 hour work week is now gone, where the gov't will take care of you from cradle tro grave, where people with college degrees can't find work and have to move back home cuz they can't afford to live on there own. Where there is the worst amount of division between black and white EVER (in modern times}, I thought the 60's was bad! Where class warfare is rampart! What ever happened to wanting to aspire to be rich? Now the rich are vilified. Go find a fucking job from a poor person and see how much he'll pay you. I never thought we would have a president who is so inept. 1st black president, what a disgrace! Even the blacks are waking up to him, he hasn't done fuck all for his own people. He knows nothing about foreign policy, and the threat ISIS poses, he is going to give away the fucking store with the Iran negotiations. Just look at the world, it is in turmoil, and I truly believe it is due to his lack of leadership. Remember when he went to Germany, how he got tens of thousands of people to hear him, Well he ain't that popular anymore, now that the world got a glimpse of the real man. You also must remember that he got the Nobel Peace Prize for getting eleccted, cuz he sure hasn't done ANYTHING to deserve it. So yeah Shai, Hide my post or delete the topic, I don't give a fuck, I just wish you would stop being an asshole with your stupid comments. Joe
vlatkozelka Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 you people fighting over believes and shit while I'm sitting here in Lebanon where they failed to elect a fucking president in 3 FUCKING YEARS ... and dream of the day my ping drops below 200 and my download speed jumps over 250KBps 2
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