D4rX Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) WHAT THE FUCK? THIS TOPIC HAS MY NAME. YOU GUYS HAVE RUINED IT. ME MAD. ANGRYDISPLAYCRAPPING Edited July 10, 2015 by D4rX 1
D4rX Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Shit, I don't know why it posted twice lol. Edited July 10, 2015 by D4rX
Mikey Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 Billie, I for one am full of joy to see that cup of tea accompanied by some fine scones, My nan would be proud. 1
RnD Posted July 10, 2015 Posted July 10, 2015 This was a hell of a party. Now that we are waking up, well me anyways. Lets discuss, DISPLAY!
StJohn Gumby Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 I go away for a short week's vacation with my family and come back to what? You guys turning a thread about a nice civilized English cup of tea into an American politics arguement. Damn, I've missed you guys. Gumby 2
Joetorp Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 I go away for a short week's vacation with my family and come back to what? You guys turning a thread about a nice civilized English cup of tea into an American politics arguement. Damn, I've missed you guys. Gumby Stay home next time!
StJohn Gumby Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Stay home next time! I probably should. At least you didn't throw all my families tea in the harbor this time. Gumby
m0a0n7er Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Boston's water is very cold. Guess it was a good ice tea back then..
StJohn Gumby Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Boston's water is very cold. Guess it was a good ice tea back then.. This is true. Americans never make tea properly. Tea is a dried herb, which has to be infused in boiling water to bring it to life and bring out it's flavours. For some reason Americans never use boiling water so American tea tastes like luke warm piss. Gumby 1
Joetorp Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 This is true. Americans never make tea properly. Tea is a dried herb, which has to be infused in boiling water to bring it to life and bring out it's flavours. For some reason Americans never use boiling water so American tea tastes like luke warm piss. Gumby And here I've been rolling it!
BeerBaron Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Poor choice of a political comic! afaic! It was a great choice, turned a Bs thread with no hope of a 5th post into 3 pages.
StJohn Gumby Posted July 13, 2015 Posted July 13, 2015 And here I've been rolling it! Joe, you don't have to smoke every bit of herb you come across. It's not Woodstock. It's not 1968. On the other hand, you got a point. Gumby
faction Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Was that you agreeing with my point of view on economics? Lastly, the rest of the world definately IS our problem. If Iran can produce weapons grade plutonium, they can smuggle it into a city of millions. If N.Korea can perfect an ICBM, they could e.m.p. the entire first world. If African nations continue warring with biochemical weapons, we could have an outbreak. ext. and so forth. Also I want to say that the Islamic State (ISIS) is being covertly backed by first world intelligence agencies so that we can invade a country without actually going to war with it. Most likely because of the feudal nature of the Islamic sects. So if they spend all their resources killing each other, they wont kill us. Of course the rest of the world is our problem. That doesn't mean we need to go assume things that would break relations with our country, which is what we desperately need right now. Instead of having so many military bases around the world and care more about other countries affairs, we should migrate back home and build more bases here to build a stronger national security. Don't you think that sounds better than policing the world with what they can and can't do? What city would Iran smuggle their "nuclear weapons" to if they have the rest of the Arab world against them? (pretty much) We need to learn to trust and negotiate with our partners and end up as teamplayers not as enemies. That won't get anywhere in the end. Policing the world and telling other countries what they can and can't do is the path to isolationism. Your remarks about ISIS are complete nonsense and have no factual evidence to back it up. Being "covertly backed by first world intelligence agencies" -- what does that even mean? If you're talking about Saudi Arabia, I completely agree with you! There's tons of sources that show their funding for ISIS and so on. If you want to include the U.S., go right ahead -- because that's what we did when the President as well as Congress allowed to arm the Syrian Rebels, which all of these lethal arms are now in the hands of the wrong people, the people who want to kill Americans and Christians, as well as anyone who doesn't believe in their sick ideologies. Regarding the rest of your comments about ISIS, It's unclear what you're trying to say. As if the "first world" is in cahoots with everyone else so they can just let ISIS kill all of the Muslim population, it's OK that will help deplete the latter of the community in the Middle East. That's okay? I complete disagree with that. It's not only a ridiculous thing to say but it's basically saying that we're letting ISIS kill everyone over there so they won't kill us over here... It's very asinine. Ok, here goes: Only the wealthy? So all the calls people get from the political parties that ask for donations go where? Yes the wealthy have more to contribute, but there is a cap ($2000, I believe) on donations, unless special circumstances. It seems that way, but I believe the lobbyists are the culprit. What country do you live in? The President sets the agenda, if he is a puppet of the majority party, remember who the majority party was in the first 2 years of his administration. Instead of working to get us out of a recession, his majority party (in both the House and Senate) spent their time writing a 2700 page bill (that was so poorly written, btw) and shoved it down the minority's party throat (3 days to read 2700 pages) to a point that not one of the minority party voted for it. That was the House, In the Senate, we had the Majority party leader, obfuscate over 400 bills, that were passed by the house but never got to the floor of the Senate. Fast forward to 2014 when the majority party was defeated and the minority party now had control of the house and senate. The only voice the people have is by the vote and the people spoke clearly. What does the President do? Ignore the wishes of the people to carry on his foolish agenda. Unprecedented and arrogant. His slogan of "Hope and Change" has given us (now over 6 years later , no hope and no change. No hope for the millions of people that do not have jobs, and no change (when you look at the deficit), he has managed to spend it all. Bullshit! That is like saying, I am in debt cuz of the credit card company charging me interest. If you didn't charge anything, there wouldn't be any interest owed. In this case, Thank God. If the President had control, I think he would have made our country insolvent a lot earlier than now. Again Bullshit! Read the 16th amendment passed in 1913 Dumb comment! Police enforce the law, why blame police for doing their job? You really think all police officers are willing to put their life on the line to promote their career? If there is a problem with the law, then blame the elected officials who write the law. Don't blame the police. Maybe you think invoking the armed forces members who fought and died to protect our way of life is a cliche, I served and went to Vietnam, you obviously couldn't be bothered to serve, unless you are disabled and couldn't get in. Freedom of speech allows us to debate any topic, unless you are on the left where they believe in freedom of speech as long as you agree with them, why else do we have political correctness? It didn't come from the Republicans... Joe It's no different with the Congress before Obama was president than it is now. Both in the House and Senate, congressmen and women don't read much of the legislation -- and the majority leaders don't give much time to allow their team to read the legislation either, so they vote on it swiftly and quickly so their agendas can be met. This is the same exact thing currently happening in Congress today. I dislike the current president as much as the next guy, but the blame shouldn't solely be on the President regarding the deficit. Congress has voted (and passed) to raise the debt ceiling five times in the first two years of Obama's presidency back in 2008. It's only increased. The police force isn't perfect anywhere. Of course there are certain people with their own hopes to catch people and meet the "quota" that the department needs. That's what bothers some people. A lot of people who join the military are indeed proud to serve the country, and I salute every current and former service member that has served. But many are also confused on what to do with their lives. They protect and fight for our bill of rights and our lives, but that doesn't mean they agree with what the U.S. does in regarding foreign policy. Many service members are completely opposed to the way the U.S. handles quite a bit of their foreign policy. Hell, just ask the thousands that contributed to the Ron Paul campaign in 2012. His campaign had the highest turnout of military donations with every other candidate combined, and he gathered support from many of whom are opposed to the current and former foreign policy dictations. I think that's what note BeerBaron was trying to hit, not about mocking our freedoms. The military isn't for everyone. And if this guy doesn't want to serve that is his own business. It doesn't make him less of an American than you just because you served and he didn't. We're proud of our service members, but not in a sense of inequality. 1
bad2gurlz Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 I'm a Muslim anybody have a problem with that? What you guys don't understand is that Isis is not made up of Muslims, it's made up of people who pretend to be Muslims. Islam it not a religion of war it's of peace and anyone who does war is not a Muslim. Btw I'll have that cup of tea 2
faction Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 I'm a Muslim anybody have a problem with that? What you guys don't understand is that Isis is not made up of Muslims, it's made up of people who pretend to be Muslims. Islam it not a religion of war it's of peace and anyone who does war is not a Muslim. Btw I'll have that cup of tea To add on about ISIS: They are collectively made up of many people who call themselves Muslim but don't follow true theology of the religion. Sure they may follow words and lines of the Quran quite literally, however, they counter these "literal" ideas when they don't use their common sense and context. They have been given the spotlight for Islam, and are taking advantage of it. While Islam does not condone war, justice is acceptable. Islam isn't a pacifist religion, and war is justifiable if there is an appropriate aggressor. Anything against innocent civilians is not appropriate in the slightest. 2
m0a0n7er Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Not quite true. Judaism and Islam have fundamental justifications to go out to war. For example the Israelis against the ancient nation of Amalek and Muslim wars against Dar el-Harb or Dar el-Kofar (from Arabic: house of war and house of infidels) Saying that a religion is something peaceful - imo It's not true. Every religion has its own rules to defend its own beliefs and some of them are violent. 1
bad2gurlz Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Not quite true. Judaism and Islam have fundamental justifications to go out to war. For example the Israelis against the ancient nation of Amalek and Muslim wars against Dar el-Harb or Dar el-Kofar (from Arabic: house of war and house of infidels) Saying that a religion is something peaceful - imo It's not true. Every religion has its own rules to defend its own beliefs and some of them are violent. From your point of view, your saying that every religion Christianity, Judaism and Islam have its war points? True but partially, in Islam peace first. When you attack it's beliefs obviously people will retaliate but when you retaliate above a certain point then that's not Islam. I don't think bringing religion into whatever this thread is matters, but if anyone wants to have a discussion about it (not fight just debate) then someone make a topic.
m0a0n7er Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Bad2 i don't know about christianity havent studied that religion yet so i cant tell what drive them to violence. In addition, i wasn't saying that there is a religion based on violence. All i can say is some people nowadays took the religion into a whole new extreme level which is not suitable to the time when people started to believe in it.
bad2gurlz Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Bad2 i don't know about christianity havent studied that religion yet so i cant tell what drive them to violence. In addition, i wasn't saying that there is a religion based on violence. All i can say is some people nowadays took the religion into a whole new extreme level which is not suitable to the time when people started to believe in it. I agree, people have moved out of their religion and made their own beliefs and labeled that as the religion. It's sad to see people like that, killing thousands of innocent people and then labelling that it was the word of god. 4
StJohn Gumby Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Good points m0a0n7er and bad2. As a Christian I can assure that Christians have, in past history, done their share of killing in the name of God. Even to the extent of Christian sects (Catholic and Protestant) killing each other. In the same way that there is now violent conflict between Sunni and Shia Muslims. The part I really don't understand, and would be delighted if either of you could explain is, if Jesus Christ is acknowledged in the Qu'ran as a prophet why do some Muslims believe that his followers (Christians) must be killed because they are Infidels? It seems to me Islam and Christianity have more in common than they do differences, yet still we cannot live in peace with each other, or ourselves. Gumby 3
Lucky Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Your answer lies in what you stated above it. Some hyprocritical elements are spreading false teachings and ideologies to the followers and are encouraging them to commit voilent acts which are strictly condemmed, Killing anybody, muslim or non-muslim is a sin which can not be repented. Historically, every religion has used this strategy in one way or another to get in power or to just fill up their pockets. Alas, i feel the end is near.
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