!donate request

[Goztow]

I'm often hesitant of donating someone when he enters the game if I do not know him because very often the credits are wasted on a useless unit. It would be really nice if you could donate an amount to someone for a specific use. For exemple !donate Manuel med would donate the possibility to buy a med for Manuel from Gozy's money. !donate manuel tech would donate the possibility to buy a tech for Manuel from Gozy's money. You get the deal...

 

This could timeout after 5 minutes or so, if Manuel hasn't used the donation by then.

 

Just a thought... no idea how hard it would be to code...

 

Another thought: there could be a "transfer fee" on donations. Like you loose 5 or 10 % of the donation you gave to someone. It could be an incentive to make your own money rather than just wait for other people to do so for you. Though I guess this could hurt the player base who just wants a casual game.

[dubstar]

!lend popped into my head, may stop people wasting the credits

 

i.e player types !lend dub <amount>

if dub types !accept he recieves the funds offered to him

as soon as dub earns amount+10% credits it automatically gets transferred back to the lender

limit: borrowers must pay back the debt+interest before accepting another loan, lenders can lend to as many people as they like but can only take out one loan from somebody else too

Edited November 11, 2015 by dubstar

[StJohn Gumby]

Damn you capitalists.

 

When I join i just type 'cash me bitches' and it usually works.

 

No guarantee of victory, No monies refunded.

 

 

Gumby

[ehh]

people dont donate to me because im apparently rude...

 

:> 

[Manuel857]

I like this idea gozy, but does anyone have time to code it?

 

There is already one thing in my mind that I want fixed, but it hasn't been done ( I won't say it here).

[WNxH3adSh00t]

Manuel is pretty popular since you used him v:

[Nudle]

The idea is nice Goz, but don't you think it will make the game run only by the people that have money?

Why should I not be allowed to run a round with a chem sprayer sydney, because you whore the airstrip on Under? And you obviously only want people to go into a med tank or repair some..

 

I am also hesitant to donate to people I don't know. But I just don't donate them. It works fine.

 

I like this idea gozy, but does anyone have time to code it?

 

There is already one thing in my mind that I want fixed, but it hasn't been done ( I won't say it here).

Snickers?

Edited November 12, 2015 by Nudle

[Joetorp]

There is already one thing in my mind that I want fixed, but it hasn't been done ( I won't say it here).

Ban all the weapons...Right Manny?

[ehh]

engineers spawning with shotguns is a pretty bad bug

[m0a0n7er]

Gozy, bad example with Manuel

Everyone knows he starts with 1000 credits like he's a chip leader on poker

And please don't turn ren to loan sharks game. Keep the donations system as is and don't change it. If you donate it's because you have enough and want to help.

[vlatkozelka]

Damn you capitalists.

 

When I join i just type 'cash me bitches' and it usually works.

 

No guarantee of victory, No monies refunded.

 

 

Gumby

!donate gumby 800 med 20% profit

[Goztow]

The idea is nice Goz, but don't you think it will make the game run only by the people that have money?

Why should I not be allowed to run a round with a chem sprayer sydney, because you whore the airstrip on Under? And you obviously only want people to go into a med tank or repair some..

 

I am also hesitant to donate to people I don't know. But I just don't donate them. It works fine.

 

Snickers?

Isn't the game supposed to be run by the people who have money? Nothing prevents you from making money yourself...

 

Some other people that are around here will remember when we played without the donation system, a long long time ago. You could still "donate" to players by buying them a tank, for exemple. But it took more time and teamwork as you needed to be at the same place at the same time.

 

Nowadays, everyone finds it normal to receive 2.000 credits simply when they join a game, by doing absolutely nothing for it. The incentive to actually do something for your credits is gone.

 

But all this is a bit off topic. I'm not actually asking to disallow donating. I'm asking to let people choose to donate credits or donating for a specific purpose. If anything, it will probably encourage people to donate more as they know their credits will not be used for units that they do not want them to be used for.

 

As for the coding, I do not know if it is possible and how much time it would ask to do. I hope the coders can reply to this .

 

PS: med or ban!

[D4rX]

You remind me of our Belgian politicians. (or politicians in general).

 

Limiting the freedom of the people (players) to the way you would want it to be.

 

To me it sounds like you want the players that join, to be programmed in a way you would want them to be playing.

Not the point of a game, I play Ren to go do what I think is best, and not for your own preferences.

Edited November 12, 2015 by D4rX

[Goztow]

The player stays completely free to use this donation or not. I don't see how this restricts his freedom at all.

 

If a player joins, do you think he prefers to be donated for a med or not be donated at all?

[masscarriers]

I see where Darx is going and I tend to agree with him, more experimented players might know the way to win but teamwork isn't about forcing better-players ideas towards newer/ramboer ones.

If you want someone to hop a in tank, you can still buy him one. We often see that with flamers, some guy on nod will buy like 10 flamers and spam "FREE FLAMERS AT HON". However if you want to help your team without telling people what to do (out of respect for their playing style and abilities), then donating is an excellent way to achieve it.

A !donate tech function would just humiliate a player that's joining a game, to be told if he wants to be part of the team he needs to heal the arties in the back of Field or else he's going broke with an engie to be sniped in tuns (by woj/serenity most likely).

This favors art-whoring players that were there at the beggining of the game, have much more cash than anybody else at the expense of their techs and peers. Then when he's killed he's just going to buy another arty while poor techs remain in the field. Also they have MVP because arts OP and Field isn't a fair map.

Actually this makes me think, techs healing whoring tanks should have a share of the cash/points the tank driver gets. I know he's having a ton of rank points repairing but it's not the same as ending up MVP isn't it...
 

engineers spawning with shotguns is a pretty bad bug

[shaitan]

That sums up what I thought too, darkz. If you're donating to a whino, you don't hand them cash and expect food to be bought. Buy them food(med) if that's how you want it spent.

[D4rX]

The player stays completely free to use this donation or not. I don't see how this restricts his freedom at all.

 

If a player joins, do you think he prefers to be donated for a med or not be donated at all?

 

^You answered your own question. That's a restriction right there.

 

If I would get donated cash, but on the condition I can only buy a med from it, I would feel as if the server is forcing me to play in a way I don't feel like, which would result into me using !td and quit the game... Everyone plays differently and the server should respect that.

 

You want 100 % teamwork, go organise lobby wars..

Edited November 12, 2015 by D4rX

[vlatkozelka]

 

 

 I would feel as if the server is forcing me to play in a way I don't feel like

*insert personal playground quote*

[Goztow]

D4rx,you may have noticed I did actually organise the 2 last community wars / lobby wars.

I don't expect all to agree.if it doesn't happen, then so be it.

[StJohn Gumby]

Like I said before, it's the fundamentally different viewpoint between AOW and Marathon players.

 

AOW players play for the team, Marathon players play for themselves.

 

If it means D4rX will RQ though, I say do It.

 

Gumby

[masscarriers]

It's not a question of AOW vs mara, it's a question of public servers vs comm wars. If you're hosting a public server you can't restrict players to a few game plans because otherwise you'll keep your thousands of credits.

There's a major difference between "playing for the team" and "imposing the team your views of how they should spend their money".

[StJohn Gumby]

So your saying it's better just to donate friends, players you know will help the team and fuck the nubs?

 

Gumby

[Goztow]

I'm not telling them how to spend their credits, I'm telling them how to spend my credits.

[Joetorp]

I'm not telling them how to spend their credits, I'm telling them how to spend my credits.

If that is how you are framing it, then before you donate, you should ask them if they want a tank, or an  arty, or a Sakura.  That way if they say no, then you will save your credits!

[Nudle]

So your saying it's better just to donate friends, players you know will help the team and fuck the nubs?

 

Gumby

Eerm, yes? It's better for the game if the money goes to players that know what to do with it, rather than rush the harvester with a sakura and dying of tiberium.

uidiot XD