Mikey Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 So I find it highly hypocritical that mods won't even tc to even teams out they they will gladly ftc others with no bother. Just came out of a game of 7 GDi - 11 NOD where NOD were all whoring the wf with arties and the few players on GDI couldn't do anything but repair, repeatedly we asked for mods to tc, they either ignored or claimed they weren't playing. I thought one of the mods jobs was to tc when the team player count is unbalanced? Or maybe I dreamt that? Because it sure as hell didn't happen. Few players left because of this, way to lose players mods keep up the good work! No buildings were down on either side btw and there was no reason for the mods not to change.
DJEYEK Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 I joined when it was 10 vs 7 - i wasnt even playing, vador wasnt also, so by saying all nod were attacking wf you are cleraly lieing. I also said in chat, we wait a few mins to see if more Players join, unfort. you and Anubis were bitching the whole time in chat, so instead of bitching you could have help your team in any other way but that. Players left after 3 Flamers did a Rush and you lost AGT and then Ref, so get ur Facts straight and write down the whole story instead of bitching and making it look like you explained the whole thing. Thank you.
AnubisOrr Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 I'd also like to jump in on this, because it exactly how Mikey described. At the point that Nod rushed (~3 arties hitting WF keeping us repairing it, 2-3 flamers, and a stank to AGT) it was 9vs5. Prior to that GDI has lost no buildings. Here are the logs of the chat. As DJ said he did say 2-3 minutes which in most cases would be more than adequate if there is a difference of 1-2 people, but even were that the case you'll see from the timestamps that that time had elapsed and still nothing was done other than to call the players calling for fairness "whiners". [05:26] <&RCAOW> acer: teams [05:27] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: Teams [05:28] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: 7-11 [05:28] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: !showmods [05:28] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] InGame Moderators: @vador845 +YKZ %Evie %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K [05:28] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: someone tc? [05:28] <&RCAOW> ZaXXzaM: guys even teams please [05:28] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: Come on mods, you're supposed to be the first ones to switch. [05:28] <&RCAOW> TuutjDrei: great advertisement for the mods [05:28] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: !mods [05:28] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] InGame Moderators: @vador845 +YKZ %Evie %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K [05:28] <&RCAOW> %Evie: how do u know [05:28] <&RCAOW> ZaXXzaM: yeh ykz and evie 2 gdi [05:28] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: yes,can u wait 1-2 mins to saee if more join plx? ty [05:28] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: Because I know what Shai has said. [05:28] <&RCAOW> TuutjDrei: ftc ykz [05:29] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: 2-3 minutes while tanks rush and we're 4 down? [05:29] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: thats the rule [05:29] <&RCAOW> TuutjDrei: just ftc any but eye [05:30] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: comsone [05:30] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: someone txc [05:30] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: its fucking 7-10 [05:30] <&RCAOW> @vador845: actually 7-9 i aint playing [05:30] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: Anytime mods [05:30] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: still 7-10 [05:30] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: me neither [05:30] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Weapons Factory under attack. [05:30] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: do your job [05:30] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: as u can see [05:30] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: and we said,wait [05:30] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: Then feel free to switch to GDI [05:30] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: till more join [05:31] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: such bs [05:31] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: Instead of trying to maintain teams with your friends. [05:31] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: ^ [05:31] <&RCAOW> %Evie: hat dir das refillen auch nichjt geholfen [05:31] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: !rm uneven teams refusing to switch [05:31] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: ^^^^^ [05:31] <&RCAOW> [HARVESTER] GDI Tiberium Harvester under attack. [05:31] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: !rm Teams [05:32] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Weapons Factory under attack. [05:32] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: I'll be posting on forums. [05:32] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: jesus fuck [05:32] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: dont annoy plx [05:32] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] InGame Moderators: @vador845 +YKZ %Evie %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K [05:32] <&RCAOW> Player eslam left the game on team Nod [16/60] [05:32] <&RCAOW> Host: eslam lost communication with the server! [05:32] <&RCAOW> @vador845: !t [05:32] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: rofl [05:33] <&RCAOW> ZaXXzaM: even teams please 2-4 min is over [05:33] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: Then do what you're supposed to do. [05:33] <&RCAOW> Host: [DA] Time Elapsed: 01.15.51 [05:33] <&RCAOW> @vador845: !time [05:33] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: teams are even now [05:33] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: ty [05:33] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] If you need a moderator !requestmod, !rm, !pagemods, or !pm. [05:33] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: 9-7? lol [05:33] <&RCAOW> [HARVESTER] GDI Tiberium Harvester under attack. [05:33] <&RCAOW> TheRelativ: one more [05:33] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: i aint even playing [05:33] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: as u can see [05:33] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: so its 8 vs 7 [05:33] <&RCAOW> TheRelativ: ur in game [05:33] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: legit [05:33] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: even [05:33] <&RCAOW> TheRelativ: ur playing [05:33] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: ty [05:33] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: lmfao [05:34] <&RCAOW> nortons: spy dead? [05:34] <&RCAOW> [HARVESTER] GDI Tiberium Harvester under attack. [05:34] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: nope [05:34] <&RCAOW> %Evie: die haben auch nichts bessers zu tun als auf nem sonntag morgen in nem spiel [05:34] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: mods are quick enough to force tc other players tho [05:34] <&RCAOW> %Evie: rum zu heulen [05:35] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: !d anubis [05:35] <&RCAOW> acer: hax [05:35] <&RCAOW> %Evie: haha [05:35] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: why some people are even mods.. it's a mystery lmao [05:35] <&RCAOW> [-HOH-]Mikey: useles [05:35] <&RCAOW> Player [-HOH-]Mikey left the game on team GDI [15/60] [05:35] <&RCAOW> TuutjDrei: gtg but wf then dies lol [05:35] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Weapons Factory under attack. [05:35] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: rq [05:35] <&RCAOW> TuutjDrei: no rq [05:35] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: I wonder why? [05:35] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: mikey is such a whiner sometimes [05:35] <&RCAOW> TuutjDrei: drinking beer @ football > ren [05:35] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: Anytime you want to step up and be a mod is fine. [05:36] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: 9vs6 [05:36] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Weapons Factory under attack. [05:36] <&RCAOW> Player TuutjDrei left the game on team GDI [14/60] [05:36] <&RCAOW> TheRelativ: mods, event up fucking teams, 3 mods in game and theyll do nothing [05:36] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: lol [05:36] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: 9vs5 [05:36] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: Anytime [05:36] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: well,if ur teammates ragequit [05:36] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: nothing we can do about it [05:36] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Weapons Factory under attack. [05:36] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: We have all buildings. [05:36] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: Don't come up with excuses. [05:36] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: and now you guys rush [05:36] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: no excuse,fact [05:36] <&RCAOW> TheRelativ: they quit cause u do nothing [05:36] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: Definitely going on forums [05:37] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: im beyond the point to discuss with you lol [05:37] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: That's okay, discuss it with Shai and Volcom. [05:37] <&RCAOW> [BUILDINGKILL] viperexcl destroyed the GDI Weapons Factory (Mobile Artillery VS. Weapons Factory) [LD] 6.6 [05:37] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Weapons Factory destroyed. [05:37] <&RCAOW> [BUILDINGKILL] [Dragon]rufeng destroyed the GDI Tiberium Refinery (Flame Tank VS. Tiberium Refinery) [LD] 0.1 [05:37] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Tiberium Refinery destroyed. [05:37] <&RCAOW> Host: [Dragon]rufeng has been recommended by BRenBot for: Destroyed AGT and Refinery [05:37] <&RCAOW> @vador845: do you know we are 2 not even playing? [05:37] <&RCAOW> TheRelativ: mod for dick enlargement [05:37] <&RCAOW> Player AnubisOrr left the game on team GDI [14/60] [05:37] <&RCAOW> Player NoobGun left the game on team Nod [13/60] [05:37] <&RCAOW> Loading level C&C_Islands.mix [05:37] <&RCAOW> Host: [DA] Running in Marathon Mode. [05:37] <&RCAOW> Host: [DA] Teams have been remixed. [05:37] <&RCAOW> Host: The game has started. [05:37] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] The server has initiated a vote to skip the map. You have 180 seconds to vote using !skip or !vote yes or !vote no. [05:37] <&RCAOW> Player [Dragon]rufeng left the game on team GDI [12/60] [05:37] <&RCAOW> ZaXXzaM: nice job 4 vs 9 [05:37] <&RCAOW> TheRelativ: mod position for dick enlargement [05:37] <&RCAOW> Player Bernd34 left the game on team GDI [11/60] [05:38] <&RCAOW> @vador845: thats really funny we were 2 not playing [05:38] <&RCAOW> Player ZaXXzaM left the game on team GDI [10/60] [05:38] <&RCAOW> acer: teams [05:38] <&RCAOW> Host: YKZ has been recommended by BRenBot for: MVP on C&C_Field_RxD with 6991 points [05:38] <&RCAOW> Host: YKZ has been recommended by BRenBot for: Most Kills on C&C_Field_RxD with 75 frags [05:38] <&RCAOW> Host: icantshoot has been recommended by BRenBot for: Best K/D Ratio on C&C_Field_RxD with 5.5 [05:38] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Infantry Barracks under attack. 09[05:38] * Havoc116 (Havoc116@1DF5494A.7B1A8E17.4F63165E.IP) has joined #rc-aow [05:38] <&RCAOW> Player vador845 left the game on team GDI [9/60] [05:38] <&RCAOW> TheRelativ: thats funny that 4 flamers, rave and light rushes on max 5 gdi [05:38] <&RCAOW> Player M3TAM0R1S joined the game on team GDI [10/60] [05:38] <&RCAOW> Host: [M3TAM0R1S] >>>>>>>>>LESS TALKING MORE ATTACKING<<<<<<<<<< [05:38] <&RCAOW> Player hleck joined the game on team GDI [11/60] [05:38] <&RCAOW> [KILL] [PSY]DJ-EYE-K killed Cocain010 HEADSHOT! (Nod Soldier/Automatic Pistol VS. Engineer/Automatic Pistol) [LD] 30.0 [05:38] <&RCAOW> Host: Cocain010 HEADSHOT! just got pistol whipped by [PSY]DJ-EYE-K. [05:38] <&RCAOW> [KILL] YKZ killed M3TAM0R1S HEADSHOT! (Engineer/Shotgun VS. Engineer/Repair Gun(Weak)) [LD] 70.0 [05:38] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] M3TAM0R1S is using Scripts 4.2 7152. [05:38] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Infantry Barracks under attack. [05:38] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] hleck is using Scripts 4.2 7152. [05:38] <&RCAOW> [KILL] Evie killed acer (Engineer/Shotgun VS. Engineer/Shotgun) [LD] 5.0 [05:38] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] Hand of Nod under attack. [05:38] <&RCAOW> TheRelativ: no chance against that useless uneven teams [05:39] <&RCAOW> [KILL] Cocain010 killed nortons (Remote C4 VS. Flamethrower/Flame Thrower) [LD] 13.2 [05:39] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] You have 90 seconds left to !skip the map. [05:39] <&RCAOW> [KILL] Evie killed OSTKCapri (Engineer/Shotgun VS. Engineer/Shotgun) [LD] 5.0 [05:39] <&RCAOW> TheRelativ: !vote no [05:39] <&RCAOW> [BUILDINGKILL] nortons destroyed the GDI Infantry Barracks (Timed C4 VS. Infantry Barracks) [LD] 111.3 [05:39] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Infantry Barracks destroyed. [05:39] <&RCAOW> [KILL] Cocain010 killed viperexcl (Engineer/Automatic Pistol VS. Nod Soldier/Automatic Rifle) [LD] 0.0 [05:39] <&RCAOW> Host: viperexcl just got pistol whipped by Cocain010. [05:39] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Weapons Factory under attack. [05:39] <&RCAOW> [KILL] OSTKCapri killed [PSY]DJ-EYE-K HEADSHOT! (GDI Soldier/Automatic Rifle VS. Nod Soldier/Automatic Rifle) [LD] 24.0 [05:39] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] To vote for or against having Bunkers / Niagra use: !bunkers / !no_bunkers / !niagra / !no_niagra [05:39] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: lol^^ [05:39] <&RCAOW> Player MegaDave joined the game on team GDI [12/60] [05:40] <&RCAOW> Host: The next map will be: Complex [05:40] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Tiberium Refinery under attack. [05:40] <&RCAOW> [KILL] TheRelativ killed Cocain010 (Engineer/Shotgun VS. Engineer/Shotgun) [LD] 5.0 [05:40] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] MegaDave is using Scripts 4.2 7152. [05:40] <&RCAOW> Player OSTKCapri left the game on team GDI [11/60] [05:40] <&RCAOW> MegaDave: !next [05:40] <&RCAOW> Host: The next map will be: Complex [05:40] <&RCAOW> [KILL] TheRelativ killed acer HEADSHOT! (Engineer/Shotgun VS. Engineer/Sniper Rifle) [LD] 50.0 [05:40] <&RCAOW> Player acer left the game on team GDI [10/60] [05:40] <&RCAOW> Player MegaDave left the game on team GDI [9/60] [05:40] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Tiberium Refinery under attack. [05:40] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] Voting period over, tallying vote's... GDI [0/0] Nod [0/1] [05:40] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] YES GDI [0|0%|0%] Nod [0|0%|0%] [05:40] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] NO GDI [0|0%|0%] Nod [1|17%|11%] [05:40] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] TOTAL YES [0|0%] NO [1|11%] Voted [1|11%] DidNotVote [8|89%] [05:40] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] Only 1 out of 9 voted, at least a third of players must vote for the vote to pass. VOTE FAILED. [05:40] <&RCAOW> Host: [DA] YKZ has been promoted to the rank of "Lieutenant". [05:40] <&RCAOW> [BUILDINGKILL] YKZ destroyed the GDI Tiberium Refinery (Mobile Artillery VS. Tiberium Refinery) [LD] 11.0 [05:40] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Tiberium Refinery destroyed. [05:40] <&RCAOW> Host: [DA] Donations are now enabled. [05:40] <&RCAOW> [KILL] Evie killed M3TAM0R1S (Light Tank VS. Engineer/Repair Gun(Weak)) [LD] 5.0 [05:41] <&RCAOW> [KILL] [PSY]DJ-EYE-K killed M3TAM0R1S (Light Tank VS. GDI Soldier/Automatic Rifle) [LD] 5.0 [05:41] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Weapons Factory under attack. [05:41] <&RCAOW> [BUILDINGKILL] Evie destroyed the GDI Weapons Factory (Light Tank VS. Weapons Factory) [LD] 2.4 [05:41] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Weapons Factory destroyed. [05:41] <&RCAOW> [Gameover] Nod has won the game by Building Destruction, lasted 00.03.23 [Map: C&C_Islands.mix, GDI: 461 Nod: 7524] [9/60] [05:41] <&RCAOW> Player Evie left the game on team Nod [8/60] [05:41] <&RCAOW> Loading level C&C_Complex.mix [05:41] <&RCAOW> Host: [DA] Running in Marathon Mode. [05:41] <&RCAOW> Host: [DA] Teams have been remixed. [05:41] <&RCAOW> Host: The game has started. [05:41] <&RCAOW> Player hleck left the game on team GDI [7/60] [05:41] <&RCAOW> Player Shako joined the game on team GDI [8/60] [05:41] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] The server has initiated a vote to skip the map. You have 180 seconds to vote using !skip or !vote yes or !vote no. [05:41] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: !vote no [05:41] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] Shako is using Scripts 4.2 7152. [05:41] <&RCAOW> Player YKZ left the game on team Nod [7/60] [05:41] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] YKZ is no longer a temporary game moderator. [05:41] <&RCAOW> Host: [BR] Most KILLS last game was YKZ with 75 frags [05:41] <&RCAOW> Player viperexcl left the game on team Nod [6/60] [05:41] <&RCAOW> Player M3TAM0R1S left the game on team GDI [5/60] [05:41] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] GDI Weapons Factory under attack. [05:41] <&RCAOW> [KILL] [PSY]DJ-EYE-K killed TheRelativ (Nod Soldier/Automatic Rifle VS. GDI Soldier/Automatic Rifle) [LD] 5.0 [05:41] <&RCAOW> [KILL] Shako killed [PSY]DJ-EYE-K (Engineer/Shotgun VS. Nod Soldier/Automatic Rifle) [LD] 10.0 [05:41] <&RCAOW> Host: YKZ has been recommended by BRenBot for: MVP on C&C_Islands with 1799 points [05:41] <&RCAOW> Host: Evie has been recommended by BRenBot for: Best K/D Ratio on C&C_Islands with 3 [05:41] <&RCAOW> [BUILDING] Nod Airstrip under attack. [05:42] <&RCAOW> TheRelativ: nice work, blame all players from server [05:42] <&RCAOW> [KILL] [PSY]DJ-EYE-K killed nortons (Nod Soldier/Automatic Rifle VS. Grenadier/Grenade Launcher) [LD] 1.1 Also, as I seem to be playing fairly often again if you'd like to reinstate me as a temp mod I am willing to do my part. And as I think I've demonstrated previously and to-date I am interested in fairness overall and am more than willing to change myself prior to others in order to keep gameplay fair. This was extremely disappointing behavior from those selected to watch over the server. As you can see in the logs the server went from ~20 people to 5 in short order.
Mikey Posted February 7, 2016 Author Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) So tell me I am lying with these logs again? Do your job next time and this wouldn't even of had to occur, stop trying to worm your way out of doing a mods job. Or are the logs clearly lying too? Maybe Kratos wrote them himself? because of course dj is correct 100% of the time and the rest of us are just whiners. Edited February 7, 2016 by Mikey
DJEYEK Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 41 minutes ago, Mikey said: So tell me I am lying with these logs again? Do your job next time and this wouldn't even of had to occur, stop trying to worm your way out of doing a mods job. Or are the logs clearly lying too? Maybe Kratos wrote them himself? because of course dj is correct 100% of the time and the rest of us are just whiners. You are lieing by not telling the whole Stoy, yes, as i said, i wasnt playing when i joined neither was vador, at the end of the map i had 0-0 KD and 16 Points, so changing myself to GDI would have changed what excactly? Excactly nothing. I like you Mikey but you have that habbit sometimes to make small things to a big shit, such as when u said mods arent doing their job, i can understand you were frustrated after playing Field for 1 Hour and loosing the Map then, but count out me and vador and teams would have been even. If i would have swapped, you would surely to 100% start bitching that mod is afk and useless and blabla. Fact is, NOD having 2 Players more when i joined ( which only could have happened if GDI Players left earlier) and those 2 were me& vador f.e. didnt made a change to the end of the Map in any way as i wasnot playing and vador also. While i was waiting for others to join Teams were even sometimes,sometimes not, but beeing 1 Player down isnt something that changes the End Result of the Map. I dont have anything more to add to this, as everything has been said, atleast by myself. P.S. You can always apply for Mod in the Forums Section and we will discuss your application. Thx.
Delusional Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Also happened yesterday on under, remember kratos? We ended up 9 vs 16 and later 16 on 21, and yet nobody either answered nor the mods tc'ed themselves to gdi. The rule of waiting a few minutes to see if people join to even teams is valid when there's like 2-3 players less and player count is like 15-18 or 17-20, since there numbers wont matter much. But on small games as those described up there by mikey and kratos, or in games like the one I said of 9 vs 16 there's no need of waiting. Mods ask if someone wants to tc, offers money for it, and if not, change themselves and the last ones in points (after warning em via pm and seeing if they're fine with it, which they usually are). Guess gonna have to follow dj's advice and get back to work, since it seems that if you want things done you have to do them yourself. Also kratos, you already applied in the past, you should reapply too.
Mikey Posted February 7, 2016 Author Posted February 7, 2016 I'm just gonna wait for the others to post because the logs pretty much say it all, I'm not gonna argue with you DJ and for the record I have nothing against you either,I am not just pointing the finger at you either, but I guess we will have to agree to disagree in the case because I think the lack of choices made resulted in player loss and more should have been done, it wasn't just me asking for even teams.
StJohn Gumby Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Great Example of Piss Poor Moderating. Thanks for bringing it everyone's attention Mikey. As for those moderators involved, I suggest you take some time to reflect on your actions (or lack of). and ask yourselves if you have the minerals to actually be a moderator at Rencorner. Embarrassing. Gumby 4
Delusional Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 What I also find unbelievable Is how DJ pretends that it's all fine, and that it's our own fault as players for complaining, when what he has done is precisely the shit he bitched about 5 months ago concerning destroyer and mintshake not wanting to tc themselves to not break up the squad when the game was unbalanced. And now he does himself that same thing to not break up the squad with evie and company and it's all good and the players fault? Like, seriously? You even tell kratos/anubis to [05:32] <&RCAOW> AnubisOrr: I'll be posting on forums. [05:32] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: jesus fuck [05:32] <&RCAOW> %[PSY]DJ-EYE-K: dont annoy plx And it's what you did on the past, making a damn forums post each time you we're pissed off by a minor thing? Way to hipocrisy don't you think? I might not be perfect, we all know that, but seriously, that's way far from anything closely related to "serious". As I always said, if someone is a moderator, he must be up for everything, whether you like it or not. If you have to lose time you lose it, if you have to break up a squad you do it, if you have to donate all your money you do it. If there's personal issues I'd understand (as I had them myself), but if not, there's no excuse. It's that simple. It just takes one second, one !tc and that's it, all the server happy, since that's one of your tasks actually, to make the players enjoy the server and have fun, rather than the contrary.
rzrbk1018 Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 I was in game a few days ago under a different nic and teams were severely unbalanced and I rm balance teams, sent pm to mods ingame (i believe evie and for sure ykz) to balance teams. Nothing on either front. This has been happening more than warranted and we read the results.
shaitan Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 I have told people for years to wait like 5 minutes, then do the tc'ing. A few minutes of people coming & going usually sorts it out. Five minutes of comings/goings, and then you fix the teams. Speaking of forcetc, in light of it being a different set of mods again, temp mods can use !ftc/!forcetc again...until you abuse it and lose it. 2
StJohn Gumby Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, shaitan said: I have told people for years to wait like 5 minutes, then do the tc'ing. A few minutes of people coming & going usually sorts it out. Five minutes of comings/goings, and then you fix the teams. Speaking of forcetc, in light of it being a different set of mods again, temp mods can use !ftc/!forcetc again...until you abuse it and lose it. I think you missed the point. It was more than slightly uneven. Gumby
shaitan Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 [05:22:42] <RCAOW> Gameinfo: (WOL) Map: C&C_Field_RxD.mix GDI: 11/60 players 19348 points Nod: 12/60 players 19387 points Players : 23/60 00.00.00 mins left SFPS: 100 [05:23:06] <RCAOW> [Disconnect] NinjaVan [05:23:28] <RCAOW> [Disconnect] MegaDave [05:24:48] <RCAOW> [Connect] TuutjDrei [05:25:42] <RCAOW> [Disconnect] olidead6 [05:25:50] <RCAOW> [Disconnect] {Os}Tomo [05:26:31] <RCAOW> [Disconnect] ace2047 [05:26:52] <RCAOW> [Disconnect] socket40 [05:27:43] <RCAOW> Gameinfo: (WOL) Map: C&C_Field_RxD.mix GDI: 7/60 players 21218 points Nod: 11/60 players 21053 points Players : 18/60 00.00.00 mins left SFPS: 100 [05:29:30] <RCAOW> [Disconnect] maluku [05:32:43] <RCAOW> Gameinfo: (WOL) Map: C&C_Field_RxD.mix GDI: 7/60 players 22513 points Nod: 10/60 players 24158 points Players : 17/60 00.00.00 mins left SFPS: 100 [05:33:00] <RCAOW> [Disconnect] eslam They spam leave to cause all of it. They always do. That's why you wait a few and people will come/go. I'm not going to tell the guys they have to swap ASAP when 7 people leave in a 3 minute window. I wont swap willy nilly every 2 seconds, I wont make the others do it either. That's retarded, and it always will be. 1
StJohn Gumby Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Well if you don't balance the teams immediately the server will depopulate rapidly. As you can see, that's exactly what happened. If that's what you want to happen, fine. Gumby
shaitan Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 They can wait a couple minutes, the server population will fix itself the majority of the time. I'm sorry, the server depopulated rapidly because 7 people left. 1
Goztow Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Isn't that the whole point? 7 players left so the teams needed to be rebalanced? What did I miss? I must admit I rarely see the temp mods moderate. We may need to be more picky as to whom we !atm (me as well). However, I don't think mods should always be the one to change teams. I usually ask for volunteers to change first, then wait a few minutes, then I change myself or the last one to join. If the game is nearly over, I tend not to change anyone because it doesn't matter anymore.
pyr0man1c Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Shai is correct here, with regard to server population dynamics. Please can you guys stop with the distasteful comments/actions? I'm not going to bother pointing out exactly what/who, because it's overwhelming; just try to be more progressive and less aggressive and more careful.
StJohn Gumby Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Shai and I have always disagreed about this. Sometimes, and this is a perfect example, if the teams aren't balanced quickly players leave. It's ok saying wait a few mins and people will join when it's a 20 v 24 game but if it's 7 v 11 and no one balances the teams some of those 7 will leave. Wait 5 mins and the game is as good as over. Which is exactly what happened. I believe moderators should be intelligent enough to do what is required to prevent people wanting to leave the game. If people do leave, the moderators are either doing something wrong or the rules they are applying are wrong. Can we stop being fucking sheep here and actually be honest and question ourselves about what is the right thing to do for the sake of our players? Maybe ask those players that asked for the teams to be balanced or those that quit in disgust because they weren't. Maybe question why those mods ingame didn't bother to balance the teams or just handed out verbal abuse to our customers instead of doing their job properly? Maybe ask who is supposed to train new mods in how to handle these kind of situations? If you just want to piss players off and kill Renegade once and for all, carry on as you are. Gumby 4
miatachris90 Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Gumby is right on this need too change or amend the rules continue with the current policy and you will kill this server faster do the right thing stop fighting and talk it out and fix it this is unacceptable
shaitan Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 The players freak out after 30 seconds of 2 people leaving game. I've seen it, I've experienced it first hand, yelling at me as well as you guys. I am not forcing the moderators to change teams after a short timeframe of people mass leaving. That is not going to happen, as moderators are people too. The same ones who generally keep the server going with dedication. I am also not forcing moderators to not teamchange. If you guys want to do it "right as soon as 2 leave", go for it. That's up to you if you want to flip flop teams every 2 seconds. Five minutes, fix the teams if the comings/goings didn't. Asking, bribery, teamchange yourselves...whatever makes it more even. P.S. the server would still be up with 5 people. As long as Rob or I were still around...if it ever got that bad. 1
rzrbk1018 Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 But looking at the time stamps of above earlier post over the course of 15 minutes (the last one being acer) people were asking. If it were only 2-3 person difference that's one thing but obviously it wasn't and players were getting annoyed that it wasn't being resolved. 2
miatachris90 Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 the point still stands the server was empty in like 20 mins due to the mods on the server unaccountable and unacceptable
shaitan Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 If think you think I'm brushing it off, I'm not. I wasn't arguing the part of how long it all took. That's this post. What I have been saying is I've told people "5 minutes", that would be from the start of the mass leaving, til the teams are fixed. In this case it lasted all of 14 minutes, which was way too long of you all fighting about it ingame. [05:23:06] <RCAOW> [Disconnect] NinjaVan [05:37:32] <RCAOW> TheRelativ: mod for dick enlargement That one's going in the mod rules. Teamchanging add-on: From the start of a "mass leaving" of 2 or more players, you need to have the teams as even as possible before five minutes is done. If the playercount is 15 or less: you need to have this done within three minutes. If you happen to be an AFK moderator at the time(you're "not playing"), teamchange yourself since you're doing nothing anyway(unless you're spectating/watching someone of course, in that case find someone to teamchange). Do not sit there and argue with players/moderators about it all...thereby making things worse. 2
Volcom Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Golden Rule of Rencorner is always do what is best for the server. That wasn't done in this case. If you care more about playing the game than keeping the server alive you shouldn't be a mod. Very disappointed. 5
shaitan Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Jumping on moderators asses after I told them how long to wait, helps nothing either. They did as I said to do, up until that clusterfuck of bitching about "bad mods" bullshit. 1
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