remove shotguns from engineers/techs/hotwires

[ehh]

or perhaps don't make jokes in a serious discussion?

it would also help it was funny too

[AnThRaX]

6 hours ago, ehh said:

or perhaps don't make jokes in a serious discussion?

it would also help it was funny too

ok i laughed out loud at this one, i have yet to see in my 7 or whatever fucking years its been of knowing you seen you contribute one post of importance or seriousness to a single topic, yet you're over here calling him out. half the time it's a huge success for you if you post more than one word and trust me, it's never funny or clever or whatever deranged reason you have in your head for posting the crap you do on a consistent basis.

 

[ehh]

i've posted plenty helpful posts ?????

guess my short one sentence posts upset you, get well soon

but hey, lets get the topic back on topic, pm me if you wanna bitch at me more

[ehh]

On 03/08/2016 at 11:47 PM, shaitan said:

shotty

no_shotty

Smurf nicks/dual votes/fuck ups get removed(up to their last timestamped vote).  Isn't pretty and sometimes it can be a pain when nick searching to see who's who.

 

32 - 22 at my count atm 

[shaitan]

You know what...all this time I only noticed "engineers" on this title. You limey bastards really are trying to turn this into vanilla. Going to have to be 2 polls...finish engy, do hot/tech.

[StJohn Gumby]

6 hours ago, shaitan said:

You know what...all this time I only noticed "engineers" on this title. You limey bastards really are trying to turn this into vanilla. Going to have to be 2 polls...finish engy, do hot/tech.

Just to be absolutely clear on this;

This does not constitute rigging the result of the poll.

This is merely changing what people voted for after they voted. Even though the question was clear.

Because no one here would ever rig a poll. (I have this on good authority).

Gumby

[Goztow]

The ingame message is clear: Host: To vote for or against having Engineer's with shotguns use: !shotty / !no_shotty

[ehh]

its cool.

about techs/hotwires having shotguns, i dont care that much honestly

afaik you need the 2nd vet rank for that too? or am i imaging things?

[shaitan]

I know what that says ingame, I put it there. I'm saying I didn't notice the title of this topic(lately I've just been clicking the 'recent posts/topics' I never noticed the end of it), so we can include hotty/tech in a separate polling.

It'll have the same wording, just like the engineer/carnage/bunkers/etc...not that I'm lazy or anything. ;p

[Volcom]

9 hours ago, StJohn Gumby said:

Just to be absolutely clear on this;

This does not constitute rigging the result of the poll.

This is merely changing what people voted for after they voted. Even though the question was clear.

Because no one here would ever rig a poll. (I have this on good authority).

Gumby

You have that on my authority.

[Learonys]

if you really want both, you could always make shotguns cheaper in the !weap store, something like 50 credits, instead of the current 120, so if you really want one to get an edge, you can still get it. or, turn the shotgun into a rank requirement so early-game APC engies aren't as powerful.

 

But what bothers me more, is that every change needs to be polled, and then turned into a permanent feature. Why not test it for 2 days with a week-long notice with in-game messages, and nicely ask them to provide feedback on the forums afterward? We can only go this far with discussion, but no testing.

[BeerBaron]

I like the idea of removing shotguns from engineers only as its written in the server message and leaving them equipped on hotwires and techs. But I think it would be better all around if we ripped off something like MPF has where different levels equip you with different weapons. I think it would be more balanced if people had to earn a shotgun at like Colonel or higher.

[shaitan]

That's not an mpf thing, we had it years ago...reborn/hex maybe...their plugins. Ofc xpert when he was here. And the belated atomix community.

We stick with what works and scrap the rest.

[Theboy]

Whats the status of this? Iv been ingame a few times and didnt notice the poll lol. But if its still up Im votin no shotty! Lol

i do think rencorner is the only server left. The only others are the sniper server and maybe the new maps with ridiculous modifications server. 

As to making it vanillia rene I dont agree. Theres still crazy crates, spys, !tank after youv lost wf. Picking up a dead soliders guns, !drop ect. The player base isnt going anywhere with this change imo. For a week people will be confused and they will get over it. Veteran players ARE engie rushers anyway. Most it appears agree its op. 

[Theboy]

On August 11, 2016 at 7:41 AM, BeerBaron said:

I like the idea of removing shotguns from engineers only as its written in the server message and leaving them equipped on hotwires and techs. But I think it would be better all around if we ripped off something like MPF has where different levels equip you with different weapons. I think it would be more balanced if people had to earn a shotgun at like Colonel or higher.

I like the idea of getting it with increased rank. A 0 credit character just shouldnt be op

[GoTWhisKeY]

Every modification I like on RenCorner except Shotguns on 0 cred engineers that can already do huge damage.  Nobody wants vanilla, just fix the biggest flaw!

[YesNoMayb]

There shouldn't be any shotguns on engineers or Hotwire/tech. Remember how easy it is to cover your c4s with a shotgun in an opposing building? Why not give the tech/Hotwire a chain gun just like in Duke Gaming? It won't be as effective as the 1-shot killing machine that can clear a building in seconds (I'm looking at you, hand of nod). If you're lucky you'll kill 1 or 2 of the defenders. Did engineers have shotguns in Duke Gaming? 

[Goztow]

Giving them to ranked players is also quite a bad idea imo. The nicest part of renegade is that the playing field is leveled at each spawn (bar credits).

[YesNoMayb]

Update?

[u00fzTar]

no_shotty won

[shaitan]

http://pastebin.com/XjLjLstA

After removing everyone's dual votes and smurf nicks(thanks mr.ed for using 4 of those votes you arse). Script is stopped and this is what we have:

41+1 !shotty(Well right after I turned off the script->  [22:01:21] <RCAOW> jez636363: shotty)

45 !no_shotty

[Strike]

So thats a 42/45 this means it will be removed?

[BeerBaron]

nod, and only nod engineers still have shottys on tomb <_<

[warlord83]

I still like rank idea need to be colonel plus for it that way its late in game and helps end 2 plus hour maps. But won't effect rush maps. Also think if it spawns on battle field we should be able to pick up. Just not off fallen soldiers.

[Theboy]

Just wanted to pop in say that this removal has been the best thing ever. The play is alot more smother and reminds me alot of how ren used to be. Thanks!