"Vanilla" mode, need some input

[Goztow]

The first reply was on topic I think.

Just do it like you feel it. 

[WNxH3adSh00t]

Make it run on 3.4.4

 

Use renguard too

Edited November 25, 2016 by WNxH3adSh00t

[StJohn Gumby]

19 minutes ago, WNxH3adSh00t said:

Make it run on 3.4.4

 

Use renguard too

Like finding a turd in your swimming pool isn't it shai.

Gumby

[WNxH3adSh00t]

3 hours ago, StJohn Gumby said:

Like finding a turd in your swimming pool isn't it shai.

Gumby

At least I'm a solid turd.

[masscarriers]

The thing is, there's so many variables to discuss on a possible "vanilla gameplay" and we're giving you input on that. The exact time this is gonna pulled off seems like a detail to me compared to the rest. Just make sure mods are ingame when it happens so we can monitor it and speak to the players, that's it.

If it works well a few times, then we'll discuss if we're making Vanilla Wednesday official or whatever.

[StJohn Gumby]

Wednesday isn't really good for me. That said, It has to be a block of games at a set time.

My preference is evening UK/European time of course.

The settings should be the same as the Commwar server. I assume the plan is to get some of the oldskool players back.

You know I'm not a suckup Joel but I'd support trying this. Good idea.

Gumby.

[DickClark]

On 11/24/2016 at 3:05 AM, rackz said:

Lets start this weekend with marathon, limited ammo and weapon drop?

 

we need a checklist/vote where peoples can multiple-vote what they want like 

Marathon 100%yes

Weaponbuy 0%yes

etc. but im at work right now, maybe someone could start such vote?

^ this is good

 

 

On 11/24/2016 at 1:43 PM, YesNoMayb said:

It doesn't flow well in a public server of a 14 year old game. There aren't enough decent/good players anymore. All the good people join a squad, then when there's no more good players to squad with, someone like me is stuck by themselves. If there's no squads, we'll have fairer games.

there are plenty of good players. they just need initiative.... squads help with coordination.

 

11 hours ago, shaitan said:

Jesus you guys...if you're just going to keep side tracking the actual topic, I'm going to pick for you.

^ sorry :x

also what ehh said leads me to an actual good path here. the difference between 'vanilla' as a game mode and vanilla as a concept. which is im sure why shai correctly put 'vanilla' in quotes. vanilla means boring, run of the mill, typical ("lame"). the vanilla game mode ISNT soft and squishy at all!

Also, and this is working against people who like marathon - the only other ren server (mpf) has modded thier AOW mode to be pretty unrecognizable to us vanilla game mode ren fans. so for example, if it wasnt (if they ran solid original type maps / rules), AOW fans would have a place to go play AOW.
 

Edited November 26, 2016 by DickClark

[bad2gurlz]

14 hours ago, masscarriers said:

Ok then:

Squads : I think it should be kept... it has nothing to do with the gameplay itself and more with if people are on TS and want to play together. It's an added value for the people and will remain regardless of if it's vanilla or not (note : I didn't talk about mara/AOW)
Buyable weapons : Should be dropped on vanilla, without a shadowfor of a doubt.
Buyable tanks : same.
Pimp weapons : Obviously, same.
All crates but health, Death, Money : it should be well balanced though, if dying is >25% of the time there's no incentive to rush for them.
Suicide takes all your money : Yeah, actually it should be that way all the time IMO.
Transport chopper armor upgrade : YES, games w/ trannies are always the funniest.
Veteran : Should be dropped.
Weapon tranfer(as in buying a new character and not keeping the other weapons) : Could be kept since getting weapons w/o buying will be a lot harder. Then again it won't matter since...
Loot dropping : ...if you can't buy weapons and loot isn't dropping, you won't get any other weapons. I have mixed feelings about this one.
Parachutes : If we upgrade tranny armor, then it should be removed. Otherwise I fear it'll be too powerful.
Grant weapons(like techs having shotty)  : Should be removed for sure.

Although i like your input, but Vanilla mode means vanilla mode not vanilla and chocolate mode. When we are going back to the old days, then we should play like the old days, No squads, no loot dropping, no weapon transfer, absoultelty nothing. We play like we did the first time, with nothing just plain simple renegade.

[WNxH3adSh00t]

What you CAN'T DO also is undoing a mod edit to call back someone a "fucking fag". Next step is mod approval.

[ehh]

good meme headshoot you go girl

[StJohn Gumby]

2 hours ago, WNxH3adSh00t said:

Gumby is a fag.

Why can he post shit about me but I cant? Fucking communists.

 

You can post any shit about yourself that you want.

What you can't do is make crude personal attacks on members of staff or use excessive profanity.

Now fucking grow up.

Gumby

[shaitan]

Knock it off you two.

[Guest rackz]

how bout complete vanilla mode and see what we miss by time?

[Manuel857]

CW style mode with donation enabled.

[vlatkozelka]

34 minutes ago, Manuel857 said:

CW style mode with donation enabled.

I like the !donation

Other games have mechanics to "share" , for example in CS:GO you can drop your weapon. In Renegade we respawn as it's not round-based and we need to for other players to buy tanks while we are mid-field so !donate is needed.

[m0a0n7er]

just bring back arty screen shake.

[Guest rackz]

39 minutes ago, m0a0n7er said:

just bring back arty screen shake.

You can enable that by drinking whiskey

[Learonys]

1 hour ago, rackz said:

You can enable that by drinking whiskey

I actually decided to play without scripts one day to see how screenshake used to be again. I quickly stopped doing that after the horrible lag, hit detection, lack of a chatlog and some other stuff I can't remember. I might try it again though with RR, but I need to find a working download first (If you don't use TT 4.0+, screenshake can't be disabled)

Edited November 27, 2016 by Learonys

[ehh]

enjoy crashing every 30 minutes then, rr, scrips 3.44  or nothing likes crashing xd

[shaitan]

Wednesday(11pm Tues or 12am Wed EST(gmt-5)) I'll be swapping it back to the mostly vanilla settings. Maybe a batch script with task scheduling too.

[visara1]

will this be every week? not sure if I  missed it. I thought I was there and looking forward to vanilla. Either way I'll play

[masscarriers]

Yep, unless all of us forget to set it on a given Wednesday that is!

[visara1]

please define vanilla. I played most of wed. and do not get it

[Manuel857]

It's just plain renegade settings. no shottys for techs,hotwires, no !tanks, !weaps, etc.

We've been just forgetting to set it.

[mdogg1108]

I was gonna say, today definitely wasn't vanilla haha. That's makes sense now.