MOD gone BAD

[roboman54]

I'm not sure where to report this so here I go, if she doesn't delete it or move it.

Moderator joejjj80 has been causing trouble here is how it started:
On the map City_flying, we had just finished destroying the enemy ref and I was waiting for credits to roll in. I was horsing around, throwing and immediately detonating remote c4 on another team mate who wasn't moving. At this point joejjj80 was standing by and saw me doing this and pm'd me calling me a jackass and using other profanity and foul language. She continued to press the matter and use such language. Today at around 1pm EST she kicked me after she refused to ftc me when I volunteered to balance teams that were 7-5. She IS still sore about that little incident. Upon refusing to ftc me and admitting that it was because of the formentioned incident, I said "so your refusing to do your job and team change me?". Clearly she was offended by this and tried to tell me to let the whole thing rest. At this time I said "you hypocrite, you tell me to let it rest and your the one holding a grudge." This is when she kicked me from the game with the reason "I warned you to let it go". 

Please take action on this as there is no call for such behavior by a moderation who is suppose to keep the peace not start arguments. 

Thank You
P.S. IRC logs will prove this.

[roboman54]

2 hours ago, roboman54 said:

I'm not sure where to report this so here I go, if she doesn't delete it or move it.

Moderator joejjj80 has been causing trouble here is how it started:
On the map City_flying, we had just finished destroying the enemy ref and I was waiting for credits to roll in. I was horsing around, throwing and immediately detonating remote c4 on another team mate who wasn't moving. At this point joejjj80 was standing by and saw me doing this and pm'd me calling me a jackass and using other profanity and foul language. She continued to press the matter and use such language.

This occurred on City_flying on the 23rd of November at about 8:44PM EST
 

2 hours ago, roboman54 said:

Today at around 1pm EST she kicked me after she refused to ftc me when I volunteered to balance teams that were 7-5. She IS still sore about that little incident. Upon refusing to ftc me and admitting that it was because of the formentioned incident, I said "so your refusing to do your job and team change me?". Clearly she was offended by this and tried to tell me to let the whole thing rest. At this time I said "you hypocrite, you tell me to let it rest and your the one holding a grudge." This is when she kicked me from the game with the reason "I warned you to let it go". 

This occurred on Field today at the time stated.

Just to clear things up

[StJohn Gumby]

Trust you to start playing Ren again and start a fight, 

If you'd let me know I could have been around to keep you from getting in trouble (again).

No doubt it was silly o'clock Michigan time tho'

Gumby

I'll flag it up in the Mods forum.

[roboman54]

Thanks Gumby

 

[StJohn Gumby]

Was this a kick? are you still unable to join the server?

Gumby

[roboman54]

No, I can join the server, it was only a kick.

[StJohn Gumby]

Ok, was just going to remove it anyway.

Rob, try not to start anymore fights with the moderators and I'm sure we can square this away.

If you're going to play more let me know and I'll see if I can rustle up some n00bless people.

Gumby

[roboman54]

ME starting fights? Your funny Gumby. SHE is the one who pm'd me with foul names, language, and cursing for a simple matter of horseplay. 

Yes, I intend to continue playing if this matter is cleared up. 

Now if only I could get some admin who has a log that shows private messages.

[vlatkozelka]

2 minutes ago, roboman54 said:

Now if only I could get some admin who has a log that shows private messages.

Who might that be ... ?

 

[roboman54]

I have no idea

[StJohn Gumby]

Relax Buddy, I got the logs

But I know you understand that having flagged it up in the Mod forum, I must allow my fellow Moderator the right to reply and explain his actions. Unfortunately, being TransAtlantically challenged like yourself it might not be until tomorrow before I get that reply.

If I don't get a reply, I might, accidentally, PM you the logs and you can decide what to do with them.

Unless you were thinking of a Mod application yourself, because I think there may be slot available soon.

Gumby

[Manuel857]

In the logs, you say that you have screenshots. Can you please post them here?

[roboman54]

I believe Gumby is working on it now, I sent him what I got and he said he moved it to the mod forum or something like that.

Didn't get but one ss though, I had read that F9 was the ss button but pushed printscreen trying to copy it to paint. Later learned that printscreen is the right button. Gumby has that on there also I think.

Edited November 29, 2016 by roboman54

[Theboy]

Here I was thinking from the title some wild ish happened. looks like nothing serious at all.

[Guest rackz]

joejjj80... its not the first time he behaved like this.

[roboman54]

6 hours ago, Theboy said:

Here I was thinking from the title some wild ish happened. looks like nothing serious at all.

If you could only see what was pm'd to me, you'd understand. As stated, I was trying to take ss of it all but wasn't sure what button took them or where they went to, folder. I tried three times to print screen and paste to paint but it the paste button wouldn't activate. It was yesterday, Nov 28th, that I learned that print screen was the correct button but it placed the ss in my documents. Thus, I have three ss of the same quote but it's after joejjj80 started to chill a bit. The initial pm to me was appalling to say the least. I do have ss but it's only the same one since I was unaware. Is there no log on this server that contains the private messages also? I guess that's why joejjj80 used pm then.

[dippy]

2 hours ago, roboman54 said:

Is there no log on this server that contains the private messages also? I guess that's why joejjj80 used pm then.

Generally not, unless we know to be looking for something.

If you have client logs turned on, then the chat logs (including PMs) are saved here:

C:\Users\xxx\Documents\Renegade\Client

 

Edit: not taking sides - there's always another side to the story. Just giving out information freely.

Edited November 29, 2016 by dippy

[roboman54]

Thanks for the info dippy, now I know. That's the problem, both with the ss issue and the chat log documentation, I know now, not before or during the incident. Now I have it enabled. Thanks again!

 

[ehh]

ill give you a tip; dont talk or argue with joe, as soon as he thinks your being lets say 'dsirespectful' he might kick you :>

[warlord83]

Whether or not he had a good reason he is a mod and needs to act like one.

[roboman54]

4 minutes ago, warlord83 said:

Whether or not he had a good reason he is a mod and needs to act like one.

This is exactly why I came here, it's the straw that broke the camel's back. I was willing to let the appalling pm's from Nov 23rd go. However, when joe refused to do his moderator duties that was it. The fact that joe refused to do his job as a mod, because of the aforementioned incident, was crossing the line. Funny thing is, there wouldn't have been a real incident if joe didn't use such foul and rude language. How hard is it to simply say "excuse me, could you please stop that?" and that would have solved the problem peacefully. Instead of what he/she actually did.

[Theboy]

Id say if it wasnt for the kicking then just brush it off, people talk trash but the kicking is just a bigger annoyance. Usually that kind of action is reserved for rule breaking or someone getting out of hand which it sounds like your innocent of both. 

Just remember though, nobodys perfect. Maybe said mod was just having an off day. 

[roboman54]

11 minutes ago, Theboy said:

Id say if it wasnt for the kicking then just brush it off, people talk trash but the kicking is just a bigger annoyance. Usually that kind of action is reserved for rule breaking or someone getting out of hand which it sounds like your innocent of both. 

Just remember though, nobodys perfect. Maybe said mod was just having an off day. 

 

5 hours ago, roboman54 said:

This is exactly why I came here, it's the straw that broke the camel's back. I was willing to let the appalling pm's from Nov 23rd go. However, when joe refused to do his moderator duties that was it. The fact that joe refused to do his job as a mod, because of the aforementioned incident, was crossing the line. 

 

[Joejjj80]

Ok Roboman

I will respond. you got it mostly right.  The fact that you continue to use She instead of he, tells a lot. and don't give me the I didn't know.  lol. Jo is the female spelling and Joe is the male spelling.  But I will let that go.

You have it mostly right.  You were throwing c4 timed on Manuel. I asked you to stop.  You didn't in fact you thought it would be wise to circle me and shoot me with your shot gun.  Yes at that time I called you a jackass and told you to go fuck with someone else.  You could have done so but you decided to argue instead.  this went on for far too long.   so I dealt with you to move on. Yep that's right you are not snow white with bluebirds singing around you all innocent like.  Yes I probably over responded and I apologize.  But really we do come to play as well.  I would have also done the same if you had done that to anyone but me as well.  TH perhaps?

so the next game on the next day I believe, you made a back handed comment and yes I told you to kiss my ass.  Probably a bad thing to say.

The next game GDI had more players than nod.  I usually wait about ten minutes for it to even out for many reasons.  One of those is team stacking.  it evened out, then gdi was short and you asked to be changed rather than RTC.   you said bad things about me when I didn't jump at your request.  Part of it was I was playing and a bit busy.   Yes I said that was funny that you give me crap every game but wanted a favor.  Nod was ahead in points had I changed you any other players coming in would have gone to nod.    It evened out as expected in the next few minutes which would have unbalanced it to NOD>

So how do we proceed.  I was probably having a tough day and really not in the mood to argue with someone doing something wrong.  My apologies.  

As far as I am concerned we need to just move on from here, don't call me names and I won't call you names.  If you decide to put c4 on someone do it to someone other than me.

So sorry for the extra anxiety in your life but I think we need to move on.  Thanks.

 

[roboman54]

CORRECTION: you NEVER asked me to stop, I stopped when I got the credits I needed. Your first pm to me was appalling and unnecessary. Wow, you just make stuff up don't you. Doesn't matter, they have the logs.