Deathriver

[DaDuKe]

I think deadriver is a good map to add to the rotation, its good for tanking, rushing and sniping and it doesnt have any modded stuff.

Just a tought 😄 

[Forithow]

Yeah, me and ExEric tested out some new maps and thought they were pretty decent, so would like RC to try those maps too. Also DaDuke, did you mean C&C_Deth_River.mix? because I can't find Death_River or deadriver

[DaDuKe]

13 hours ago, Forithow said:

Yeah, me and ExEric tested out some new maps and thought they were pretty decent, so would like RC to try those maps too. Also DaDuke, did you mean C&C_Deth_River.mix? because I can't find Death_River or deadriver

yea i think its that 1 whit the long tunnel to each base its ref whit the bridge in the middle 

[DaDuKe]

cool Deth_river been added to the rotation but my download manager wont download the map from either WOL nore Renlist 😞
 

Edited February 26, 2020 by DaDuKe
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[GetPastMe]

I can't download it either.  Started to once but I jumped out because I thought I had connected to another server.  Now it just times out.

[shaitan]

Should be working now. Had to re-add it to the firewall after lastnight's pc reboot.

[ROZPIERDALATOR]

@Forithowmap from video

 

[Forithow]

11 hours ago, ROZPIERDALATOR said:

@Forithowmap from video

 

Yeah, I played that map yesterday. I like it so far, only played one quick match of it though (we won on GDI), not a proper long match yet

[Manuel857]

Terrible map because its one sided. GDI wins literally everytime.

[Forithow]

1 hour ago, Manuel857 said:

Terrible map because its one sided. GDI wins literally everytime.

Yeah, Nod gets overrunned by mrls and meds from the refinery side and there isn't really any space for stanks to sneak around if GDI is at both entrances, kinda wish there was more space for each entrance or just have one entrance for vehicles and an extra infantry tunnel leading to the bases

Edited March 2, 2020 by Forithow

[SaltyBiscuit]

I personally think there's a lack of flanking points in this map, which makes it tougher on NOD to push out of their base with tanks and maintain a position out of base. I think most of the good maps that have less flanking points also don't have AGT/Obi. Possibly removing major base defenses from this map would make it more even? 

[Blacky]

On 3/1/2020 at 12:30 AM, ExEric3 said:

That map will need remake since it have glitched tunnels like Siege had. Funny is it comes only with TT patch.

 

At least Siege has to do with some bug in TT if you assign the wrong collision flag combination in 3ds max/renx. The issue has been there since the map was released but did not cause noticeable issue in stock renegade.

[DaDuKe]

I dont agree whit the 1-sided part tbh, teched artys can easily push back either side of the map and reps can be sniped away from the tunnels.

Nigeria is more 1-sided imo whit GDI and theire hummers there.

I played this map many times and it was great fun, I won whit Nod I think just as much as whit GDI

[Forithow]

9 hours ago, DaDuKe said:

I dont agree whit the 1-sided part tbh, teched artys can easily push back either side of the map and reps can be sniped away from the tunnels.

Nigeria is more 1-sided imo whit GDI and theire hummers there.

I played this map many times and it was great fun, I won whit Nod I think just as much as whit GDI

Well I think if we play enough games (like 100 games of deth-river) and see the resulting wins to see if it's more GDI sided or vice versa, most maps are usually around 50/50 wins between GDI and Nod except for the occasional few maps like City_Flying, Glacier_Flying and MetroTS

[DaDuKe]

1 hour ago, ExEric3 said:

And wasnt this map modded at MPF?

nope its the same there as it is in here

[Forithow]

I think only difference was to refund buildings or obtain recon bikes/TOW humvees and stuff like that

[DaDuKe]

5 hours ago, Forithow said:

I think only difference was to refund buildings or obtain recon bikes/TOW humvees and stuff like that

yeah thats true

[Iran]

6lock mrls makes this and the n-word viagra map ridiculously one sided.

[Forithow]

5 hours ago, Iran said:

6lock mrls makes this and the n-word viagra map ridiculously one sided.

Yeah, seems pretty GDI sided. Don't get me wrong, I love GDI but Nod gotta have some opportunity except for Shitty_Flying.

I'm looking at the map list, could we try Mutation_Redux and Country_Meadow?

[shaitan]

Niagra 2-18-2020 - Now:  GDI=12 wins / Nod=10 wins.

Niagra 01-10-2018 - 12-28-2019: GDI=135 wins / Nod=155 wins.

Deth_River 02-23-2020 - Now:  GDI=10 wins / Nod=6 wins.

These are with skip maps removed and two players or more.

As always, you can look for yourselves: box.rencorner.co/mapstats/  Look for the Gamemode.txt files.

Edited August 29, 2023 by nameismud
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[shaitan]

I changed things because it is skewed way towards GDI. The same reasoning we have certain ingame rules per map: to try and make things more fair. I like the map, I like your guys' idea of the map. That won't stop me from removing Deth_River if it is too one-sided.

I put those polls up February 23rd, noone voted on Deth for the first three days.

What that map needs is those pop-up gates like Snowfight2005 has at both entrances. That would force players to rush inside and be at the mercy of the defenses -or- it'd force them to fight outside of the bases. Either way, it'd stop the problem. If you noticed today how the gameplay went: it was tied without Arties/MRLS. The only reason GDI lost the way they did was the WF was killed.

We're not adding DB maps, I want nothing to do with the bullshit that MPF went through.

[DaDuKe]

lets just see how this goes then

[ehh]

it was a terrible map in 2003 and will be in 2020

[shaitan]

From March 6 to now(minus some stats when we ran both marathons):

Total games: 79. 
2 player games and up: 73
Skipped 7.6%(6/73)
GDI: 35 wins(48%)
Nod: 38 wins(52%)

Way better than the 62.5% GDI wins it used to be pre-arty/mrls removal.

P.S. The normal links I send you guys to to look at our stats is not up-to-date. We didn't install another webserver onto this newer PC(but I am still getting the stats in a file).

[Manuel857]

Tbh I'm liking the map more now ever since the change.