Italy, Hero, Kesha, and ehh

[Macaronii]

Vlat if you have a problem with them come talk to me on ts. Otherwise shut your mouth. They have already stepped down now cut your shit. They are good people and have grown up quite a lot, i think its your turn. Hero i respect the effort and dedicated time you put into the videos , they look really good it got me into AVA like damn the sniper headshots are awesome Love playing it with noobs haha Please stay in touch with RC on ts or something it would be a shame for you all to just vanish

[qwe]

 

 

First off, drop the sarcastic attitude I am not a child and I know everything that goes on these forums because I read every post. If I felt anyone was being harassed I would have dealt with it as I have multiple times in the past. If you had a serious concern I would assume you would contact someone in the upper staff to resolve the matter because they are taken very seriously. I have seen only one post in the past that has crossed a line by any of the above mention names and it was removed and dealt with. Dronez is well rewarded for his efforts as you can see the Administrator status beside his name. He has been treated very kindly by me and the rest of the staff and to say otherwise is complete bullshit. Oh you have been pissed off for a long time? Here is an idea grow the fuck up and tell someone instead of sitting there angry. The administration is here to solve those problems and to make people happy. And for the record I am pissed off 90% of the time because all I do is work on this community. Try showing me a little respect. 

 

 

 

I hate to see you guys go. I was hoping we could fix this and I am sure in time we will. For now I respect your decision to leave, but I do not agree with it. Love you too buddy!

 

 

How dare you say I do not give a fuck. I have been on two different teamspeaks, the forums, and facebook for the last 4 hours trying to resolve this. To even suggest they are somehow above anyone else in regards to being banned you are completely ignorant. Look at the people that are banned on these forums. There are three names:

 

• Animoski
• Cronus
• Agent

If you are suggesting that Hero or Italy has done anything even remotely close to what the three above have done you are a fool. Also, No one has me blinded. I have known Italy and hero for almost a decade. I know they are good guys and have a wealth of knowledge and could actually help this community. At this point in time I am not going to go against my community, but I can tell you I am not about to abandon my friends or call them down in anyway because they have done a lot of good for this community in the past two weeks alone.

 

Qwe Approves

[shaitan]

Frozen, did you forget your login/pass?

[qwe]

Frozen, did you forget your login/pass?

Yes

 

-Qwe.

[vlatkozelka]

i dont see where i have insulted u there and i apologized if i did and i do it again if you think it's needed

really i know ur a good guy for keeping this place alive, if i had to run this place i'd blow up in a minute, i REALLY , IN ALL HONESTY, appreciate ur work(there is a topic for me sayin that ).

but i think it was a bad choice of word to say that ur "blinded" and i apologies again for it . what i meant (and u prove it urself) that u being friends with Hero for a long time has made u ignore his actions for long. like come on , why would i push my luck here ? i could just sit there and wach/play like i always did . im just sayin what i am for RC's own good, i'm not the only one complainin , so i must have some point , not ? 

 

btw , there is no sarcasme in any of my posts

[Volcom]

Thank you for the apology. I understand there is a language barrier. Regardless of my friendships I treat everyone the same. I have had many talks with hero and in all honesty his most recent posts haven't been bad. I think there needs to be room in every community for a little spam and jokes. It keeps things light. After all we are a gaming community not a Multinational Corporation. People need to have fun and joke around and when people realize that is what they were doing I think the problem would be solved. They were not trying to hurt anyone. They just made some topics to joke around with in the spam section. It is called the spam section and is protected for a reason: so you don't have to read it if you do not want to. If I moderated every post and only allowed serious posts I do not think anyone would still be here. The main reason we are here is for fun. Without fun there would be no video games, no jokes, no teamspeak, no Rencorner. So before you stick a troll label on all these guys take the time to actually get to know them and listen to their ideas because I think you will see a entirely different side to them. Everyone that has ever been on Rencorner teamspeak with these guys knows Hero is a very smart guy and involved in a lot of games and has endless ideas. They would know Italy has has vast experience moderating and has had lots of experience with dealing with problems and people and can solved almost any conflict, not to mention one of our most active renegade players. They would also know tristt truly cares for Renegade and rencorner and can out snipe 95% of renegade. They would know that Kesha is actually Australian and can speak english fluently and is possibly one of the funniest people I have ever met. They would know frozen is one of the best gamers out there. He literally starts playing a game and becomes amazing at it, he is one of the best AVA players in the world. They would know that JammasterJay was an senior mod at Exodus and has had a lot of experience with renegade in game and on the administration side of it and he likes to crash his cars off of bridges. They would know that signal is an amazing graphics designer and made our banner for Rencorner.co and all the images on our facebook. They would also know that all these guys have the same thing in common: they just want to have a laugh. They all hang out together everyday and laugh everyday. They came to Rencorner because of me but they stayed because of Rencorner and honestly you guys didn't take the time to get to know them. You all just judged them by the way the posted on the forums. Five years ago I hung out with these guys everyday and I made the same silly forum posts they used to make. To think that they are just trolls and nothing more saddens me because I know these guys. I know what they are capable of and I know how big of an improvement they could make on Rencorner. I asked for you guys to give them a chance and let them show you guys what they could do and you guys were unable to do what I have done so many times before: Give them a second chance.

[TheHero]

i dont see where i have insulted u there and i apologized if i did and i do it again if you think it's needed

really i know ur a good guy for keeping this place alive, if i had to run this place i'd blow up in a minute, i REALLY , IN ALL HONESTY, appreciate ur work(there is a topic for me sayin that ).

but i think it was a bad choice of word to say that ur "blinded" and i apologies again for it . what i meant (and u prove it urself) that u being friends with Hero for a long time has made u ignore his actions for long. like come on , why would i push my luck here ? i could just sit there and wach/play like i always did . im just sayin what i am for RC's own good, i'm not the only one complainin , so i must have some point , not ? 

 

btw , there is no sarcasme in any of my posts

 

So, not to bring this further but I seriously want to know what I've done to cause such an emotional fire to burn from within?

 

Like you seriously seem personally hurt by something I've done.

[JQuo]

 

I will give them credit, their immaturity brings a lightened sense of humor. But I will agree, they do exceed the line of trolling. But I still enjoy them. Some of us, need to chill and accept it as a joke; not take it so seriously. 

 

I left some parts out, if you don't mind. That would be my opinion. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BiLLaBoNg]

[DrSithis]

I took Volcom's thought and advice on these particular people. I thought they were doing bad. No, all they want is to see everyone joking around and having fun. Sometimes I feel as if it is beinh taken too far but I see it the way they do. I used to be an Internet Troll. We never mean harm to people, we mean to make people laugh. I stopped trolling and I forgot what it was like. But I love them. They always had some funny business that made me wake up and make me look forward to everyday.

What we need to do is get together and have a small discussion between those who have an issue with these guys, and work out something smart with them. I really do hate seeing them want to leave. I want to say sorry to them, and Volcom; the manner I conducted myself about them was immature. It was uncalled for. But again their immaturity brings a lightened sense of humor regardless of what anyone says.

[SovietWolf]

I took Volcom's thought and advice on these particular people. I thought they were doing bad. No, all they want is to see everyone joking around and having fun. Sometimes I feel as if it is beinh taken too far but I see it the way they do. I used to be an Internet Troll. We never mean harm to people, we mean to make people laugh. I stopped trolling and I forgot what it was like. But I love them. They always had some funny business that made me wake up and make me look forward to everyday.What we need to do is get together and have a small discussion between those who have an issue with these guys, and work out something smart with them. I really do hate seeing them want to leave. I want to say sorry to them, and Volcom; the manner I conducted myself about them was immature. It was uncalled for. But again their immaturity brings a lightened sense of humor regardless of what anyone says.

 

 

That was honestly amazing, brilliant, and beautiful, sir. I give you props for being the better person and looking back on your self rather than others. I am not going to point any fingers, or say names, but for the people who have problems with these guys, just know, you are not forced to read the posts they make. You are not forced to talk with them on TS or IRC, remove your self from the situation if you must. I have been moderating games and forums for nearly 5 years now. Not once have I seen an issue like this before not even on DragonLords which has thousands upon thousands of players. It saddens me to see this happen. I can see valid points on both sides, and yeah sure there may be some things they could work on, but dont we all? 

 

I may be speaking out of place here, but from what posts I have read by them, for example my topic "Pulling Grills At Work" Yeah they were "trolling" Each other and what not But not ONCE did I see either party request the other to stop. I would bet that if you were affected by one of these peoples posts and you had talked to them or sent them a message about your concern they would be wiling ot talk about it. I know I am very new here and do not know the full story's behind everything but this is just from what I have observed from this group.

 

Even though Rencorner is my first community it honestly saddens me to come home form work to this. As volcom has said, get to know them, lighten up. If you cant work out past events then so be it. But Dont hold a grudge untill you really know the person in question.

 

I have said my two bits, I hope that none of you all will leave, and I know I hardly know any of you but thanks for the laughs you have given me. And to the other side I honestly hope you can work things out between you all.

[ehh]

regarding: But still , every time ehh joins a game a fight/flaming ...w/e u call this... starts , so i dont see how ALL these pple who have problems with him are wrong while he is right .( u can see logs on that). Would you please take this in consideration?

 

yeah i flame on a video game, it happens in all games, not my fault when people get upset with it, there go out of the way not to tell me, even if there are mods, there don't tell me to tone it down or anything, so if you want me to stop saying something (say for example the infamous ostk jokes), I'll stop doing it, i got told off by shaitain and i stopped doing it. Difficult huh?

 

I'll continue posting/playing renegade no matter what italy/hero/anthem do, so iuno why my name is in this topic anyway

[dronez4]

I Think its bout time i post... (Jesus christ how can this much people post in a night..)

 

Anywayz..

 

There was obviously a problem between you guys (ehh, Italy, Thehero, Kesha) and mikey, I don't know why u took this too far..

I Tried my hardest to sort this shit out, and you sorta threw me over the line there, u didnt give me a chance to even sort the problem out, Now its my time to talk..

 

You had problems with mikey, I PM'd him with that 'form' i presented all of u.. And he agrees, I Also said in the form if none of you comply, Then it would result in a ban.. It has been going on for way too long, This is exactly why this topic is here.

 

iTaLy, You and your friends amazingly brought up the social media, The whole community appreciates it, But dude, think about it, I Made it easier for you, But you made my job 10x harder by trying to make me look wrong on my decisions, I Said this decision was gonna be fair, But that 30-60 minutes of pure arguement from you wasnt nice, I wanted time to speak to my family i havnt seen in months, but instead i came on here to deal with the problem, I Hope ur happy, they've gone home now.

 

Now.. I Think this topic has fired up way too much, If u guys arent gonna re-consider coming back then i'm really sorry to hear that..

 

As for the rest, Look what just happend here? over something as stupid as this..

 

Not only was it a situation between 2 people at once, Now its a overreaction that leads to multiple people leaving..

 

I Done what i could, You didn't even give me a chance..

 

Think about your actions, Thats all i have to say right now, Thanks..

[ehh]

so a litte renegade dispute is more important than family?

 

thats no ones fault but your own, good job slinging shit at italy though

 

5 stars

[iTaLy]

Don't bring your personal life into this and try to play the sympathy card Dronez, doesn't work with me. We all have shit going on in our lives and don't need to tell everyone about it here, and considering it's unrelated to why we're leaving it has no relevance. The thing with Mikey was absolutely minor. I explained the main reasons to Trojan why we're deciding to leave and he sees where we're coming from. We're sticking by it

[dronez4]

No such thing as the sympathy card, I Couldn't care less if u guys gave me sympathy or not, I'm trying to put a point out there to u..

I Tried to help u with my own time, instead of spending a lil time with family i took time out and tried to sort out the problem, Does that not tell u that i care for u guys?

 

Right well then...

 

This is my last post you know my reasoning.

[ehh]

you care more about us than your family?

 

that has touched my heart

[shaitan]

There is a simple fix to all of this: stop.

I grouped you with the trollers last night Italy, it's hard not to when you're forever their spokesman. Yeah I pushed you when you kept saying "take my mod", if you wanted gone so bad you'd of left without a word.

You all have been doing things the rest of us didn't have the imagination to do or gumption. I don't negate that in anyway. Yet, do you really think I'd keep quiet when this topic was made calling out Mikey for saying Hero was fat? Yet , people seem to forget what has been leading up to it for months now. This wasn't started with "fat" nor "muscle pics".

All of you rc people act decent in game/ts/irc(mostly lol), why the hell can you not HERE?

[TheHero]

He's not our spokesman we can speak for ourselves, if you go to Italy with all the problems for our group then that is in you guys, not us. Italy doesn't want to be some pillar for every complaint about us coming to him, he's not here for that reason.

 

The whole Mikey thing was blown out of proportion on a single premise and that is bias. Go back and read my first post to know what I mean here but it's fairly obvious. The whole fat/lifting thing I thought was a joke, I never took any of that serious and yet if I retaliate suddenly I'm abusive and shit? It was in the spam section for a reason, it wasn't serious, nothing there is serious, yet you people treat these forums like real life. Anything that goes against the circlejerk or is a bit outspoken is removed/deleted and that doesn't bother me but there's no other forum I've been active on in my whole life that was moderated like this and if you guys want it like that, then I won't be here. Pretty simple really.

 

And dronez

 

I Tried to help u with my own time, instead of spending a lil time with family i took time out and tried to sort out the problem, Does that not tell u that i care for u guys?

 

That's the definition of a sympathy card bro, no-one forced you to do it yet you want us to feel bad for you, hence sympathy.

[BglD4RK]

oh god O_O..... aeria forums alll over again... leggoo

[dronez4]

Yeah i take back the 'last post' thing..

 

You obviously dont understand that i was trying to help u out, Now u took it beyond the limit..

 

Sympathy card, Didn't know there was cards for that shit.. nice one.

 

Let me tell you something here...

 

I Spend my time here trying to make the community better, I Couldn't give 1 fuck if u cared what i do.

Now instead of making me look like a complete and utter fool go sling a hook.

 

Pick ur choice, If ur leaving then leave.. If not then stay..

 

Rather than making this look like renforums and make me and anyone else look like a twat before u leave, You could leave in peace..

 

If you're gonna create more commotion, Then u don't deserve to be here.

 

At this moment in time, I Don't really care what any one of u say, i'm kinda pissed off the fact you try turn it round on me..

 

P.S. Yeah you guys aren't worth it, Kinda know that now.

[TheHero]

No-one's saying you don't have good intentions dronez, we all know you do but that doesn't change the events that actually happen. You handle things way too seriously. I've not had as nearly as many run-ins with any other admin here than I have with you.

 

What limit are you talking about? The limit where I try to make my points against yours instead of sucking up your arse because you're an admin? Or because I pointed out something so blatant that it almost didn't need mentioning?

 

You can put as much effort into this community as you want but the way you want to run these forums is just weird.

 

Shoutout to Feda/Billa/Applez/Gumby/Trojan/CerealKlr. Feda should seriously be an admin here.

 

Shoutout to f1r3st0rm, he is the best poster on these forums.

[JQuo]

I explained the main reasons to Trojan why we're deciding to leave and he sees where we're coming from. We're sticking by it

 

 

Anything that goes against the circlejerk or is a bit outspoken is removed/deleted and that doesn't bother me but there's no other forum I've been active on in my whole life that was moderated like this and if you guys want it like that, then I won't be here. Pretty simple really.

 

Is there any chance that you guys will reconsider this decision? Is there anything that can be done to solve this situation? 

[f1r3st0rm]

No-one's saying you don't have good intentions dronez, we all know you do but that doesn't change the events that actually happen. You handle things way too seriously. I've not had as nearly as many run-ins with any other admin here than I have with you.

 

What limit are you talking about? The limit where I try to make my points against yours instead of sucking up your arse because you're an admin? Or because I pointed out something so blatant that it almost didn't need mentioning?

 

You can put as much effort into this community as you want but the way you want to run these forums is just weird.

 

Shoutout to Feda/Billa/Applez/Gumby/Trojan/CerealKlr. Feda should seriously be an admin here.

 

Shoutout to f1r3st0rm, he is the best poster on these forums.

lol @ my shoutout

 

sucks you guys are leaving, you guys are jokes but these forums are too serious for them

[Joetorp]

It seems obvious to me that they are leaving,  It also seems obvious that if you guys leave, you should go and cut the drama.  Rencorner will survive.  There is no point to all the bickering back and forth.  If your leaving, then leave!  This topic is pointless,  y'all are just fanning the flames.  The only person that needs to hear why you are leaving is Volcom.  You would have been ahead of the game by letting the rest of us wonder why, instead of airing in this topic. 

 

The topic in Renforums about "Is Rencorner dead" was handled correctly by Volcom.  He didn't post anything.  In this case (this topic) "silence is golden" would have been the best choice.

Joe